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Re:Kotlin M12 is out by jan1021488 on Friday May 29, 2015 @11:39AM (#9625234)
Its a shame nobody cares, since this is a really nice language IMO.
Re:Kotlin M12 is out by tauchunfall on Friday May 29, 2015 @03:13PM (#9626649)
True.

For me, the tight Java integration and low learning curve makes Kotlin a good candidate. Also good to have a modern language for all Android versions on the market. The compiler optimizations seem to be great, and their work to support things like Dagger, which modifies code at compile time, also seems fruitful.

edit: typos

Re:Kotlin M12 is out by zserge on Friday May 29, 2015 @01:13PM (#9625851)
Kotlin is a really good language. I really want it to be my primary language for android development. The only problem I have now is build times. It's about twice as slow to build a Kotlin app than Java app.
Re:Kotlin M12 is out by k__ on Friday May 29, 2015 @02:41PM (#9626476)
Is this a jvm specific problem? Scala seems to have huge build times too.
Re:Kotlin M12 is out by zserge on Friday May 29, 2015 @02:53PM (#9626555)
Big programming languages are built from big JARs (compiler, runtime, stdlib). Loading those each time in memory is a long process. Using nailgun saves ~10 seconds on my laptop.

Another problem is compiler performance (both Kotlin and Scala compilers compile less statements per second than Javac), but it's not that dramatic.

Finally, dexing languages with runtime (kotlin - ~200KB, scala - more than 1MB) takes time.

Luckily, Buck optimizes most of it.