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Re:Dear AirBNB, No Thank You for the XXX Freak Fest by viraptor on Friday May 29, 2015 @01:38AM (#9622860)
I'm not sure why he wants AirBnB to fix the blacklist issue. I mean, sure, the situation sucks for him and he was put there partially because of renting his place via AirBnB. But he can't realistically expect AirBnB to fix this issue.

According to this [1]:

> The blacklist is actually a database of suits filed by landlords and compiled by tenant screening companies.

So it's basically the same as Experian, Equifax, and other credit rating agencies. And it's the same kind of scam in the end.

What AirBnB could potentially do is get together with him to figure out how to appeal the entry based on the applicable regulations. But that's not what I'd call them fixing the issue.

[1] http://www.npr.org/2014/12/14/367833532/tenant-blacklist-can...

Re:Dear AirBNB, No Thank You for the XXX Freak Fest by gyardley on Friday May 29, 2015 @01:47AM (#9622891)
He wants AirBnB to fix the blacklist issue because he can no longer rent an apartment after an eviction caused by his AirBnB guests.

I'm not sure why you find that hard to understand. It was obvious from the post.

Not that I would ever let strangers stay in my place, but I would expect the same thing.

Re:Dear AirBNB, No Thank You for the XXX Freak Fest by viraptor on Friday May 29, 2015 @02:08AM (#9622976)
Because AirBnB has no control over the blacklist. He doesn't really mention whether the original contract allowed him to sublet though.

If it did, then his issue should be with: the owner suing him and the companies linking his case to the blacklist. AirBnB could help him out with place to stay, court costs, etc. - but you can't expect them to "just fix" it. They've got the guarantee and as far as I know, he got the money to compensate for the incident itself.

If it didn't, then... the blacklist works. I don't approve of how it works, but these are the current rules. Effectively the party is irrelevant - he's on the blacklist for breaking the subletting rules.

Re:Dear AirBNB, No Thank You for the XXX Freak Fest by notdanariely on Friday May 29, 2015 @02:01AM (#9622947)
Hmm, an interesting and different perspective! Thank you for sharing.

If I were to consider renting my place on AirBnB, I would consider the people staying here to be my guests, not ABnB's. While I believe there is some concern with how the company represents themselves, the fact remains that it's his apartment he chose to rent out. Illegally, I might add.

If you rented a room to someone referred by a friend, and that guest trashed your place... would you expect your friend to make restitution? (Personally, I would downgrade my trust in that friend's opinion, but I don't think I would hold them liable...)

Re:Dear AirBNB, No Thank You for the XXX Freak Fest by gyardley on Friday May 29, 2015 @02:22AM (#9623033)
A friend?

No, I wouldn't expect a friend to make restitution at all - unless, of course, my friend had done this sort of thing millions of times, knew I was likely subjecting myself to the risk of eviction (probably completely inadvertently), and didn't bother to say a damn thing to me.

If, instead of warning me about the stupid risk I was taking, my friend highlighted things designed to make my behavior seem risk-free (like, say, a million-dollar property damage guarantee), well, then I might feel a little differently. If my friend had built a multi-billion-dollar business off of the risky behavior of me and others like me, then I know I would feel differently.

But this is a moot point, because friends don't let their friends engage in risky behavior without at least making them aware of those risks. Someone that does that isn't your friend at all.

Re:Dear AirBNB, No Thank You for the XXX Freak Fest by SilasX on Friday May 29, 2015 @02:31AM (#9623062)
FWIW, I couldn't quite piece together what happened from that post, since he never actually gives a chronology, just a list of how Airbnb responded at some stage of the controversy.

Before your post, my best guest was that they damaged his apartment, costing him money that he couldn't recover, and when he tried to get Airbnb's help, they sent out word that he was uncooperative and got him blacklisted.

Re:Dear AirBNB, No Thank You for the XXX Freak Fest by Dylan16807 on Friday May 29, 2015 @02:40AM (#9623097)
The guests may have triggered the eviction, but their bad actions were not the cause, it was the fact that the room was rented at all.

The XXX Freak Fest is not the problem, and AirBnB already compensated for that, which is why the post is not entirely obvious.

That and the... interesting writing style.

Re:Dear AirBNB, No Thank You for the XXX Freak Fest by mschuster91 on Friday May 29, 2015 @01:44AM (#9622881)
There likely won't be any legal options to get him out of the tracking databases, after all he was responsible for the damages and violated his rental contract.

But Airbnb should have e.g. rented a hotel room for him until the situation is resolved, and they didn't do it...