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Re:Vietnam 40 years on: how a communist victory gave way to ... by reallyoldguy on Monday May 25, 2015 @03:36PM (#9601368)
Agreed, the piece has a very distinct bias, and it's sad to see what Vietnam has become, especially considering what it could have been had history gone a little differently (South Korea is a reasonably analogous case).
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Re:Vietnam 40 years on: how a communist victory gave way to ... by mercurial on Monday May 25, 2015 @03:51PM (#9601436)
It is? When was South Korea under commercial embargo? I agree that the piece is extremely biased, but it's pretty clear that the US were about as keen on helping post-war Vietnam developing its economy as they have been with Cuba.
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Re:Vietnam 40 years on: how a communist victory gave way to ... by chinhodado on Monday May 25, 2015 @04:24PM (#9601585)
I think what he meant was, had South Vietnam won, it would have become a second South Korea.
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Re:Vietnam 40 years on: how a communist victory gave way to ... by jbjohns on Monday May 25, 2015 @04:58PM (#9601725)
What are you talking about? There was no "South Vietnam"... There was Vietnam and there were places the invading forces were occupying.
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Re:Vietnam 40 years on: how a communist victory gave way to ... by reallyoldguy on Monday May 25, 2015 @06:57PM (#9602086)
The Republic of Vietnam (South Vietnam) was absolutely a country that had a right to its own sovereignty.

Framing the Vietnam war as a communist struggle against Western invaders is naive and incorrect. South Vietnam was governed by a nationalist but anti-communist government that sought aid from the US and others, while North Vietnam was a communist government that was aided by the USSR and China.

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Re:Vietnam 40 years on: how a communist victory gave way to ... by DanBC on Monday May 25, 2015 @05:01PM (#9601744)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Vietnam

First google hit.

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Re:Vietnam 40 years on: how a communist victory gave way to ... by VLM on Monday May 25, 2015 @05:18PM (#9601793)
It existed in the sense that the Confederate States of America existed. A bunch of politicians unhappy about the countries government went into rebellion, coincidentally in the south, and then the fireworks began. But as a cultural concept, neither the CSA nor South Vietnam existed before their respective political rebellions aka they weren't "real countries". And after the rebellion was crushed they don't exist anymore in any real cultural/political fashion. If they won, they would have developed into real distinct countries eventually, but they never got the chance.

As far as invaders go, both sides invited so many vistors and advisors its hard to say who that is.

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Re:Vietnam 40 years on: how a communist victory gave way to ... by reallyoldguy on Monday May 25, 2015 @07:02PM (#9602096)
It's hard to say what a "real" country is in this case. The modern borders of Vietnam were only drawn in 1802 when Gia Long unified the country. Within 60 years, the French colonized Vietnam and split it into Cochinchine, Tonkin, and Annam. Then, in 1954, it was split again by the Geneva Accords into North and South.

As you can see, most of these divisions were short-lived and that idea that Vietnam was one unified country for a long period of time before being arbitrarily split by warring politicians is not correct.

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Re:Vietnam 40 years on: how a communist victory gave way to ... by g960 on Monday May 25, 2015 @07:17PM (#9602139)
Well for what it is worth, Christian missionaries are flooding Vietnam.

It's well on it's way to becoming South Korea.

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