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Re:Bitcointalk Server Compromised by scanr on Sunday May 24, 2015 @12:36PM (#9596704)
Anyone know what this table means:

        1 word   0
        2 words  0
        3 words  0
        4 words  3m
        5 words  19d
        6 words  405y
        7 words  3My
Does it mean that if your password contains only 4 words, it 3 minutes to crack regardless of the words?

Is https://xkcd.com/936/ bad advice?

Re:Bitcointalk Server Compromised by TheLoneWolfling on Sunday May 24, 2015 @01:06PM (#9596788)
That XKCD comic is good advice. But use a long enough passphrase.

Also, he's being (very) conservative. In other words, he's assuming a very fast password cracker. Roughly speaking, he has a wordlist of ~8070 words, which works out to ~13 bits of entropy / word. Which implies at 3My to crack 7 words he's assuming ~26 trillion (!) password hashes per second.

That's potentially realistic if you're using a fast hash - but you should be using something that's slow (and memory-constrained) for a password hash.

Re:Bitcointalk Server Compromised by DanBlake on Sunday May 24, 2015 @06:24PM (#9597864)
Doesnt the english language consist of 500,000-1,000,000 words?

* http://www.merriam-webster.com/help/faq/total_words.htm

Re:Bitcointalk Server Compromised by TheLoneWolfling on Sunday May 24, 2015 @07:17PM (#9597969)
Yes. But most of them are far too close to each other to remember easily. Or relatively not used words.

It's (generally) easier to just use a longer passphrase and a shorter wordlist of only relatively common words.

Re:Bitcointalk Server Compromised by Buge on Sunday May 24, 2015 @06:50PM (#9597926)
The xkcd is bad advice. It mentions 1000 guesses per second.

In reality GPU crackers can do 100,000,000,000 guesses per second. https://hashcat.net/oclhashcat/

You need to add another 2-3 words.

Re:Bitcointalk Server Compromised by 001spartan on Sunday May 24, 2015 @03:23PM (#9597257)
The way password crackers work now, it is quite easy to crack passwords that are combinations of words, even with alphanumeric substitution. The best passwords are completely random, and 24+ characters.
Re:Bitcointalk Server Compromised by desantis on Sunday May 24, 2015 @01:05PM (#9596782)
This threw me off as well, I think you are suppose to use the first chart if your password was generated randomly and the second chart if you used words. I am not 100 percent sure though.
Re:Bitcointalk Server Compromised by psykovsky on Sunday May 24, 2015 @02:39PM (#9597097)
That is how many time to break the answer to the security question, not the passwords. The security questions have a weaker hashing function.