BitTorrent Bleep Now Publicly Available Across All Major Platforms

Re:BitTorrent Bleep Now Publicly Available Across All Major ... by zaroth on Tuesday May 12, 2015 @06:34PM (#9535447)

Sync was great until it locked all my folders and demanded $39 to start working again. Their free tier makes it sound like you get 10 shares free but I think it actually turned out to be 10 folders including sub-folders within a share...

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Re:BitTorrent Bleep Now Publicly Available Across All Major ... by danieldk on Wednesday May 13, 2015 @02:43AM (#9537209)

I think it actually turned out to be 10 folders including sub-folders within a share...

No. The documentation says it is 10 shares with any number of subfolders and that is also my experience - when the Pro trial expired, I could sync 10 shares with a large number of subfolders without any problems.

Of course, changing the number of shares from unlimited to 10 was a bait and switch move, and a scam because their website said that they wouldn't remove any functionality from the free version.

Also, it's very weird that they switched to a subscription model. You bring most of the infrastructure (bandwidth & disk space) and they bring mostly software (and some infrastructure). Why not just let people buy the software?!?

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Re:BitTorrent Bleep Now Publicly Available Across All Major ... by seanp2k2 on Wednesday May 13, 2015 @03:35AM (#9537364)

Because then you don't generate recurring revenue. Microsoft also gets this now (finally).

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Re:BitTorrent Bleep Now Publicly Available Across All Major ... by black_puppydog on Tuesday May 12, 2015 @05:52PM (#9535205)

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8626931

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Re:BitTorrent Bleep Now Publicly Available Across All Major ... by Sir_Substance on Tuesday May 12, 2015 @06:42PM (#9535479)

That's as dishonest as btsyncs statement, in it's own way.

Because it's closed source, we don't /know/ how secure btsync is. However, we do know that microsoft, google and dropbox will just hand your shit over if the US government asks.

Something is better than nothing. The only open source competitors in this space are owncloud, who /still/ won't let me upload to both a work and person cloud at the same time, and syncthing, which I have high hopes for but which currently has a workflow so bad I think I'd rather just use a thumb drive.

I've stuck with btsync 1.3.94, the version with the beautiful workflow, just before it went off the rails. It solves my need to avoid google/facebook etc. /Maybe/ it doesn't protect me from the US government, but that's still better than dropbox.

I think bleep's gonna struggle, because it requires me to get /other/ people to buy into my disquiet, which turns out to be really hard if my experiments with XMPP over skype tell me anything.

You know what I might actually pay for? A gateway to facebook/gtalk/skype. I'd be willing to pay $5 per month for a bleep-to-everything gateway, either from bittorrent or someone else. Half of bleeps value is simply in my not needing another account (e: I could say the same about btsync).

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Re:BitTorrent Bleep Now Publicly Available Across All Major ... by danieldk on Wednesday May 13, 2015 @02:52AM (#9537239)

I've stuck with btsync 1.3.94, the version with the beautiful workflow, just before it went off the rails.

Plus, pre-2.0 shares had a killer feature: read-only encrypted peers. These were peers that would only retrieve the encrypted data in read-only form.

Using read-only encrypted peers, you can have an always-on node in the cloud, with the security of end-to-end (client-side) encryption.

I hope they will bring this back in Sync 2, but it seems much harder now that they switched to the identity model.

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Re:BitTorrent Bleep Now Publicly Available Across All Major ... by joepie91_ on Tuesday May 12, 2015 @10:25PM (#9536394)

The problem is that there's no "something". All BitTorrent does is make a promise, and that is worth nothing. Thus, "something is better than nothing" doesn't apply.

Now if it were a verifiably half-assed solution, I'd agree with your statement.

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Re:BitTorrent Bleep Now Publicly Available Across All Major ... by danieldk on Wednesday May 13, 2015 @02:49AM (#9537226)

They did let iSEC partners review their source code. So, it is not nothing.

But I agree that it would be far more trustable (and popular) if Bittorrent Sync were open source. And there is still a profit model with an open source BTSync: let people (who need it) get a tracker, relay server, and always-on (read-only encrypted) peer subscription.

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Re:BitTorrent Bleep Now Publicly Available Across All Major ... by aw3c2 on Wednesday May 13, 2015 @04:06AM (#9537457)

There is more than Owncloud and syncthing. For example give Seafile a try. It's really, really good.

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Re:BitTorrent Bleep Now Publicly Available Across All Major ... by Immortalin on Tuesday May 12, 2015 @10:57PM (#9536471)

Try Syncthing

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Re:BitTorrent Bleep Now Publicly Available Across All Major ... by danieldk on Wednesday May 13, 2015 @02:41AM (#9537201)

Unfortunately, Syncthing only supports a subset of what Bittorrent Sync does:

- There is no tracker/relay server infrastructure. As a result, Syncthing doesn't work if two peers are behind a firewall/NAT without uPnP or manual port forwarding. The number of peers behind carrier-grade NAT is only growing (IPv6 migrations) and if you are often on the move (hotels, etc.) you have no control over the firewall.

- Syncthing does not support selective sync yet, let alone with the ease of BTSync where it is a Finder/Explorer extension.

- Syncthing does not support link-based sharing, which is handy if you quickly want to share something with family/colleagues.

- Syncthing is too hard to set up for most family/colleagues.

tl;dr Syncthing is great for synchronizing two machines on networks under your own control, but it is not a nearly-complete P2P replacement of Dropbox like Bittorrent Sync is.

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Re:BitTorrent Bleep Now Publicly Available Across All Major ... by nodata on Wednesday May 13, 2015 @03:34AM (#9537361)

> As a result, Syncthing doesn't work if two peers are behind a firewall/NAT

Yes it does, it uses local discovery to find the nodes.

> Syncthing does not support selective sync yet

Yes it does, but admittedly it's not user friendly.

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Re:BitTorrent Bleep Now Publicly Available Across All Major ... by danieldk on Wednesday May 13, 2015 @03:58AM (#9537425)

Yes it does, it uses local discovery to find the nodes.

Sorry, I didn't formulate that clearly: two peers on different networks without uPnP or control over port forwarding.

Yes it does, but admittedly it's not user friendly.

https://github.com/syncthing/syncthing/issues/193

suggests otherwise. .stignore is not the same as selective sync, but more akin to BTSync's .sync/IgnoreList, it allows you to not sync files at all.

Selective sync means that e.g. all peers have file X, but you don't want to synchronize it on your laptop because it is too large.

https://www.dropbox.com/en/help/175

http://help.getsync.com/customer/portal/articles/1908818-wha...

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Re:BitTorrent Bleep Now Publicly Available Across All Major ... by Sir_Substance on Wednesday May 13, 2015 @03:28AM (#9537342)

>and syncthing, which I have high hopes for but which currently has a workflow so bad I think I'd rather just use a thumb drive.

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Re:BitTorrent Bleep Now Publicly Available Across All Major ... by chanux on Wednesday May 13, 2015 @01:58AM (#9537051)

Also they call it peer-to-peer (IIRC) and now it comes with an annual fee (how about, maybe a one time charge?). Also the software felt pretty complicated with the Pro update.

In the beginning it was all amazing. But we all know we can't have nice things.

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