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Re:Class action lawsuit filed against Lenovo over Superfish by belorn on Monday May 11, 2015 @09:58AM (#9524738)
Going through the list of complaints, it really sound as it should have been a criminal procedure, not civil. One then wonder why that isn't the case here.
Re:Class action lawsuit filed against Lenovo over Superfish by a3n on Monday May 11, 2015 @11:55AM (#9525624)
It would seem to be a violation of the DMCA, as it is software preinstalled to allow the eventual side-stepping of the end-user's security measures (using an HTTPS-capable browser).

"It also criminalizes the act of circumventing an access control, whether or not there is actual infringement of copyright itself."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Millennium_Copyright_A...

EDIT: Considering the huge number of victims systematically targeted on an ongoing basis, perhaps RICO would apply too. Certainly RICO is brought to bear by prosecutors when trying to intimidate less resourced individuals.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racketeer_Influenced_and_Corru...

Re:Class action lawsuit filed against Lenovo over Superfish by seanp2k2 on Monday May 11, 2015 @01:43PM (#9526481)
It would make my day to see companies (or the individuals who called for this retarded project) get punished under DMCA / RICO / CFAA. I bet we'd see those repealed real quick due to lobbying pressure if that kind of thing actually worked.
Re:Class action lawsuit filed against Lenovo over Superfish by a3n on Monday May 11, 2015 @01:47PM (#9526503)
Nah, they'd just get revised by Congress, as part of the War on Citizens.
Re:Class action lawsuit filed against Lenovo over Superfish by rhino369 on Monday May 11, 2015 @02:21PM (#9526739)
Does superfish circumvent copyright media protection? Not really. It's a huge stretch to call https a form of drm.
Re:Class action lawsuit filed against Lenovo over Superfish by Lawtonfogle on Tuesday May 12, 2015 @01:05PM (#9533163)
As big of a stretch as punishing teachers changing question answers under RICO?
Re:Class action lawsuit filed against Lenovo over Superfish by cmattoon on Monday May 11, 2015 @10:50AM (#9525144)
With the amount of frivolous cases brought under the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act (http://www.networkworld.com/article/2908555/opensource-subne...), it'd be nice to see some charges filed for this.
Re:Class action lawsuit filed against Lenovo over Superfish by cmattoon on Monday May 11, 2015 @12:43PM (#9526031)
Re:Class action lawsuit filed against Lenovo over Superfish by michaelhoffman on Monday May 11, 2015 @10:06AM (#9524796)
In the U.S., private prosecutions are not usually allowed. Additionally, government officials with prosecutorial authority have some amount of discretion in choosing which cases to prosecute and limited resources that prevent them from prosecuting every possible case. A private citizen cannot force prosecution, no matter how meritorious the case.
Re:Class action lawsuit filed against Lenovo over Superfish by mfisher87 on Monday May 11, 2015 @10:43AM (#9525084)
This is true, but one still wonders why government officials haven't pursued a criminal case.
Re:Class action lawsuit filed against Lenovo over Superfish by rhino369 on Monday May 11, 2015 @01:07PM (#9526204)
One strategy the DOJ uses is to let a civil case go forward and then piggy back off it. Let the private attorneys do the heavy lifting and then swoop in for an easy victory.

Also, the way the law is structured, it's typically easier to get information in a civil suit since defendants have fewer rights.

Re:Class action lawsuit filed against Lenovo over Superfish by roel_v on Monday May 11, 2015 @10:51AM (#9525151)
Because it's such a minor issue.
Re:Class action lawsuit filed against Lenovo over Superfish by jellicle on Monday May 11, 2015 @11:18AM (#9525380)
Hacking several million computers is minor? What qualifies as major, then?

The Morris worm infected 2-3 orders of magnitude fewer computers...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morris_worm

Re:Class action lawsuit filed against Lenovo over Superfish by tragic on Monday May 11, 2015 @01:53PM (#9526541)
Well, there are surely more than three orders of magnitude more computers connected to the internet today than the 60,000 Paul Graham reports people guessing at in 1988.

Put another way, as dreadful as it is, Superfish was never at risk of partitioning the internet. The harm is restricted to those luckless individuals who purchased a Lenovo laptop in the particular time frame at issue; quite possibly a crime, but not, playing devil's advocate for reluctant prosecutors, a 'something must be seen to be done or I'll be lynched' level crime.

Re:Class action lawsuit filed against Lenovo over Superfish by seanp2k2 on Monday May 11, 2015 @01:46PM (#9526498)
Consider what the outcome here would be if, instead of Lenovo expressly doing this, it was a single rogue employee who e.g. Modified the system image used by the factory with the exact same software in the exact same way and took the ad profits.

Whatever would happen in that situation should happen here. I would guess prison time would be involved.

Re:Class action lawsuit filed against Lenovo over Superfish by task_queue on Monday May 11, 2015 @09:16PM (#9528959)
You do not abuse the user's trust like that.
Re:Class action lawsuit filed against Lenovo over Superfish by mfisher87 on Monday May 11, 2015 @11:54AM (#9525620)
Uh, why?
Re:Class action lawsuit filed against Lenovo over Superfish by neurotech1 on Monday May 11, 2015 @07:41PM (#9528588)
US Judges in civil cases can be obligated for the court to be informed that a crime has been committed, which is then referred to the prosecuting authority. The prosecuting authority still has discretion and is not forced to prosecute the matter.

I found a reference to a case in Utah. http://e-discoveryteam.com/2011/04/10/judge-refers-defendant...