Without Systemd

Re:Without Systemd by chris_wot on Saturday May 09, 2015 @09:55AM (#9516383)

I challenge you to show me what part of systemd isn't directly related to inititialization of services.

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Re:Without Systemd by agumonkey on Saturday May 09, 2015 @10:14AM (#9516422)

Maybe the parameters and interface will simplify over time. Patterns emerge with use.

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Re:Without Systemd by chris_wot on Saturday May 09, 2015 @10:35AM (#9516470)

Yeah, that doesn't answer my question. What isn't necessary?

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Re:Without Systemd by agumonkey on Saturday May 09, 2015 @05:47PM (#9517815)

I don't know all of systemd but :

  - journal
  - networkd
  - console

Are already far from generic system config/init parts. These components are very nice and cleaner than older alternatives but it feels like unnecessary coupling. Also every release added magic variables to handle corner cases. They're proficient but complexity is increasing.

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Re:Without Systemd by blueflow on Saturday May 09, 2015 @11:04AM (#9516553)

journald, logind. chrooting (nspawn). tty-ask-password-agent.

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Re:Without Systemd by chris_wot on Saturday May 09, 2015 @02:07PM (#9517121)

nspawn inits. journald - fair point. logind inits. systemd-tty-ask-password-agent is a password agent that handles password requests of the system, for example for hard disk encryption passwords or SSL certificate passwords that need to be queried at boot-time or during runtime.

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