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Re:Talking About Money by brentshields on Friday May 01, 2015 @04:57PM (#9474462)
Regarding bluffing: I've seen it happen where the company has asked for a pay stub as part of the final paperwork to confirm that the stated current salary was legit. So yeah that could be a downside to bluffing if you want the job.
Re:Talking About Money by ghaff on Friday May 01, 2015 @05:07PM (#9474533)
I've never heard of such a thing but it undoubtedly happens. Your pay stub is really just showing the floor though. For many positions, there are fairly regular bonuses, variable comp, etc. So, in reality, there's usually some wiggle room in providing current salary info while still being essentially truthful.
Re:Talking About Money by fecak on Friday May 01, 2015 @05:39PM (#9474697)
I've been recruiting engineers for almost 20 years, and I have probably had a dozen cases where a client asked for a pay stub around the time an offer is presented. It's obviously rare, and most of the time it was for high-ticket talent that seemed to be paid noticeably above market rate.
Re:Talking About Money by ghaff on Friday May 01, 2015 @05:51PM (#9474756)
I have to say, I find that sorta weird. At that point, I would think if the pay stub didn't square with the claimed salary (and there was no convincing explanation for the difference), they'd almost have to not hire the person. And, if it did square, it's like they'd already decided the price tag was too rich for their blood.
Re:Talking About Money by fecak on Friday May 01, 2015 @10:25PM (#9475621)
Excellent points, and I'm not necessarily condoning the practice (I don't control that). It does seem they are trying to call a bluff where you either expose the bluffer or get locked in to a rate above market. I can't recall an instance where the stub was provided and the client didn't make a competitive offer, but my data set isn't large.
Re:Talking About Money by ghaff on Friday May 01, 2015 @10:34PM (#9475646)
Maybe it's a "There must be a reason they value them so much" (even though we don't see it) sort of thing. Hardly an uncommon situation. Doesn't mean it worked out in the end :-)
Re:Talking About Money by r00fus on Friday May 01, 2015 @06:41PM (#9474970)
I've seen colleagues in Sales offer to show W-2 information, to disclose all compensation.
Re:Talking About Money by ghaff on Friday May 01, 2015 @08:21PM (#9475330)
It sorta makes sense in that context given variable sales comp plans. "I really am that good. Here are the audited numbers to prove it."
Re:Talking About Money by grecy on Friday May 01, 2015 @04:59PM (#9474479)
Photoshop is a wonderful thing :)
Re:Talking About Money by kamaal on Friday May 01, 2015 @05:15PM (#9474574)
You can get fired if they figure out you have been fudging the figures and 'lying' to them. I'm not sure how they would know, but if they do, it can create problems for you.
Re:Talking About Money by anigbrowl on Friday May 01, 2015 @05:48PM (#9474740)
Error-level analysis of the Jpeg. As you say, if it comes out later that could have bad legal consequences - the term is 'detrimental reliance' and the dishonest person could conceivably face fraud charges. Even if not, it could easily become a a career-damaging topic of gossip.
Re:Talking About Money by derefr on Friday May 01, 2015 @06:23PM (#9474889)
Re: error analysis—it's a "picture of line-art" kind of document, isn't it? Not even a watermark. So: scan it at super high resolution, blow out the contrast, countour-vectorize it to SVG (effectively equivalent to recovering the original PDF), edit that, print the result, and then scan the print.

(It just occurred to me that if there was "an app for that" in this case, no parent would ever be able to trust their child's report card again.)

Re:Talking About Money by grecy on Friday May 01, 2015 @07:02PM (#9475044)
Don't even both with all of that.. Just make a reproduction from scratch.

Make it look more or less like the original. As long as nobody sees the original next to the mock-up, who's ever going to notice that one or two digits changed?

Re:Talking About Money by toomuchtodo on Friday May 01, 2015 @07:44PM (#9475220)
I have yet to find any case law where this occurs.

Regarding gossip, "Would you trust a company who checks up on someone's previous paycheck?" seems to quell that pretty quickly.

Re:Talking About Money by rmc on Saturday May 02, 2015 @01:05PM (#9477714)
Scan pay slip, edit in photoshop, print out doctored image, take photo with digitial camera. :)