Re:Ask HN: Why do managers tend to make more money than engi...
by UK-AL on Sunday April 26, 2015 @10:15AM
(#9441822)
I find managers who see themselves as visionary hero's, who mentors subordinates often forget engineers are capable people with their own ideas, self motivated with skills they probably don't have themselves.
They dont need to be lead, but helped to self organise and to stop external interference.
Re:Ask HN: Why do managers tend to make more money than engi...
by zo1 on Sunday April 26, 2015 @10:30AM
(#9441870)
"They dont need to be lead, but helped to self organise and to stop external interference."
That's quite a whole lot more difficult to be done, than said. I've been learning that first-hand for the past year, especially when it comes to subordinates that are not too keen on being dealt with in a "conventional" manner.
Re:Ask HN: Why do managers tend to make more money than engi...
by UK-AL on Sunday April 26, 2015 @11:03AM
(#9441972)
Conventional management is not really meant for knowledge workers.
Re:Ask HN: Why do managers tend to make more money than engi...
by jwinkle on Sunday April 26, 2015 @02:27PM
(#9442733)
Why do you assume the manager is a woman? I've actually never seen a woman manager. If you're afraid of gender bias, why not petition the cosmetology industry to fix the female-centric gender bias? Men are under-represented in nail salons too..
I believe a (good) manager gets paid a lot because they make their team more productive, focused, and happy. a good manager will... Increase the productivity and output from the team. She makes sure that each person has the tools and resources to do their job effectively. She ensures that roadblocks are moved out of the way and not a distraction. She mentors the team and helps identify projects that help improve their skills and peaks their interests. She sets a vision the team can rally behind and adjusts that plan and pitch as needed. Shes brings experience and prospective that no one else on the team has had. She hired an all-star team and fires the deadwood. She's the shit umbrella who protects the team from the rest of the company.
Hiring a good manager is hard work. It's even harder to promote within without the right training structure. One of the problems with management is many of us are self taught. Bad managers can often breed more bad managers. But a great manager can be worth every penny.