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Re:Websites Prep for Google’s ‘Mobilegeddon’ by drzaiusapelord on Tuesday April 21, 2015 @12:34PM (#9415219)
What mobile device is wikipedia designed for exactly? Its such a small and spartan design that it seems like the kind of thing you'd see on an early 2000's site when stuff like Palm and Windows Mobile came out.

Why aren't the sections already opened by default? Why aren't there any images? My phone out-performs desktops from just a few years back. I don't need this super-minimalist wikipedia. I just need something that's slightly more responsive because I don't have the horizontal space to handle all of its columns properly.

Re:Websites Prep for Google’s ‘Mobilegeddon’ by extra88 on Tuesday April 21, 2015 @05:10PM (#9417131)
> Why aren't the sections already opened by default?

If sections are all expanded, one has to scroll an unknown distance to get to the section one is interested in. If sections were to expanded by default, it would probably be better to not make them collapsable at all and instead include in the mobile layout the table of contents found in the desktop layout. However the table of contents uses anchor links which may be less usable in a mobile context (easier to lose your sense of place, a user's desire to not click links that may load a new page for performance and/or bandwidth reasons).

I agree that an "expand all" option would be a useful addition, I didn't follow the link in another post that presumably explains why one isn't being added.

Re:Websites Prep for Google’s ‘Mobilegeddon’ by mattmanser on Tuesday April 21, 2015 @07:26PM (#9417850)
That's what anchor tags with an id tag are for, so it scrolls to the section you want. Which they use on the desktop but, wait for it, you can guess what's coming here, not on the mobile site...
Re:Websites Prep for Google’s ‘Mobilegeddon’ by epistasis on Tuesday April 21, 2015 @11:45PM (#9418566)
I feel like I've had so many conversations of this form:

User: This doesn't work on your mobile site, why don't you just give me your desktop site because it works better?

Mobile web site dev: We can't do that on mobile because X.

User: But X is already a solved problem on the existing site.

Mobile web site dev: Sorry, but we need to do a mobile site.

Re:Websites Prep for Google’s ‘Mobilegeddon’ by epistasis on Tuesday April 21, 2015 @11:48PM (#9418577)
How often have you been able to browse the content you want just by the section heading? They are somewhat informative, but I find it much much faster and easier to scroll through the sections skimming the text and images.

Collapsibility means requiring high-precision clicking, instead of low-precision sweeping of the finger.

Re:Websites Prep for Google’s ‘Mobilegeddon’ by extra88 on Wednesday April 22, 2015 @11:22AM (#9421071)
I don't spend a lot of time looking at Wikipedia on my phone but I'd have to say I do like the collapsed section design. I rarely want to read an article top to bottom and having the collapsed sections makes it very quick to view just the section(s) with the most promising heading.
Re:Websites Prep for Google’s ‘Mobilegeddon’ by tripzilch on Saturday April 25, 2015 @02:26PM (#9439127)
> a user's desire to not click links that may load a new page for performance and/or bandwidth reasons

I see your point in general, but even the average user browses Wikipedia often enough to realize they're always in-page links. If only by accident, I hit the wrong link often enough :)

Re:Websites Prep for Google’s ‘Mobilegeddon’ by _delirium on Wednesday April 22, 2015 @11:04AM (#9420928)
Imo the Wikipedia app is much better, and addresses all those points. I think it's been getting the main development time lately, because the previous app was ancient/broken and so they tasked a team with redoing it. But now it's ahead of the mobile site, which was previously ahead. I'm not 100% sure why they actually need the app vs. just a good mobile site though.