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Re:German author Guenter Grass dies by ukigumo on Monday April 13, 2015 @08:02AM (#9367114)
I quite enjoyed the "Tin Drum" but I admit that I lost a bit of respect for the man when it was revealed he had worked for the Stasi.

Still, it is a great loss of a great writer.

Re:German author Guenter Grass dies by thomasz on Monday April 13, 2015 @08:11AM (#9367147)
He didn't work for the STASI, he volunteered for the Waffen SS.

> Grass was born in the Free City of Danzig (now Gdańsk, Poland). In May 1945, after service as a soldier in the Waffen SS, he was taken prisoner by U.S. forces and released in April 1946. Trained as a stonemason and sculptor, he began writing in the 1950s. In his fiction he frequently returned to the Danzig of his childhood.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%BCnter_Grass

Re:German author Guenter Grass dies by pgeorgi on Monday April 13, 2015 @08:20AM (#9367180)
The current official version is that he volunteered for submarine service, was rejected there, then drafted into Waffen SS.
Re:German author Guenter Grass dies by Ralfp on Monday April 13, 2015 @10:30AM (#9367802)
> He didn't work for the STASI, he volunteered for the Waffen SS.

He volounteered for the Kriegsmarine, but that was in 1944 when Reich was in full retreat in the east, and so he was pulled into Waffen SS ranks instead.

Re:German author Guenter Grass dies by jbaiter on Monday April 13, 2015 @08:17AM (#9367166)
I think you're mixing some things up here. He never worked for the Stasi, on the contrary, he was under their observation since 1961.[1]

He was, however, a member of the Nazi Waffen-SS in his youth, though he claims to never have fired a shot. The fact that he chose to make this public only very late in his life (and many years after he had receiced the Nobel prize) is what is really problematic, in my opinion.

[1] http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%BCnter_Grass#Beobachtung_d... (the English article doesn't mention it, hence the German version)

Re:German author Guenter Grass dies by MichaelMoser123 on Tuesday April 14, 2015 @03:15AM (#9372587)
i never understood this part: how could he hide his Waffen-SS membership for so long? He would have had a highly visible tatoo on his left arm; well, maybe he got rid of the tatoo somehow after the war or something like that.
Re:German author Guenter Grass dies by Narretz on Monday April 13, 2015 @08:15AM (#9367160)
He worked for the Stasi? I think you have this completely wrong: the Stasi observed him. Maybe you mean that he was briefly a member of the Waffen-SS at the end of the war?
Re:German author Guenter Grass dies by ukigumo on Monday April 13, 2015 @10:28AM (#9367795)
I thought I read something about him having worked for Stasi but I am clearly mistaken or at least can't find anything about it now.

Still the point I was trying to make is that the man and the writer are different and if Mr. Grass worked for the SS instead of Stasi that doesn't make him any better as a man, does it?

Re:German author Guenter Grass dies by brianterrel on Monday April 13, 2015 @12:59PM (#9368813)
Toward the end of the war, the SS meant something very different from before the war. Mr. Grass didn't "work for" the SS; He was conscripted into an SS combat unit after volunteering for service with the regular war department.

I don't have much of an opinion either way of Mr. Grass, but I don't think volunteering to fight in the Army as a teenager reflects negatively on his character.

Re:German author Guenter Grass dies by bostonpete on Monday April 13, 2015 @01:58PM (#9369228)
> I don't think volunteering to fight in the Army as a teenager reflects negatively on his character.

I believe criticisms were leveled at him mostly for not disclosing that he served in the SS until 60 years after the fact (despite Nazi criticism being a common theme in his writing).

Re:German author Guenter Grass dies by ukigumo on Monday April 13, 2015 @02:39PM (#9369499)
Well you are certainly free to think that but I disagree with you.

When you join the army you are also joining what that army stands for. If you were a communist, certainly joining the US Marines would not be high on your priority list, would it?

Unfortunately having an opinion seems to be met with downvotes here at HN which is unfortunate for such a otherwise pleasant group of people.