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Re:Show HN: Kaiwa, a Modern Open-Source XMPP Web Client by fiatjaf on Wednesday April 08, 2015 @09:22AM (#9340543)
Can I chat with Google Talk users from this?
Re:Show HN: Kaiwa, a Modern Open-Source XMPP Web Client by emixam on Wednesday April 08, 2015 @09:25AM (#9340568)
You will first need an XMPP account but then you can add GTalk users to your roster and chat with them.
Re:Show HN: Kaiwa, a Modern Open-Source XMPP Web Client by ge0rg on Wednesday April 08, 2015 @09:31AM (#9340612)
GTalk has broken federation for Hangouts users, and they failed to enable s2s encryption, which is mandatory since February: https://github.com/stpeter/manifesto/blob/master/manifesto.t...
Re:Show HN: Kaiwa, a Modern Open-Source XMPP Web Client by stpeter on Wednesday April 08, 2015 @11:22AM (#9341317)
Actually we (most of the XMPP network) switched over to mandatory encryption last May and IMHO it's been pretty successful so far. Google is welcome to join the party anytime! :-)
Re:Show HN: Kaiwa, a Modern Open-Source XMPP Web Client by contingencies on Wednesday April 08, 2015 @09:45PM (#9345373)
Sounds a lot like Google's behavior on GTalk amounts to 'embrace, extend, extinguish'... except that they failed.
Re:Show HN: Kaiwa, a Modern Open-Source XMPP Web Client by gwillen on Wednesday April 08, 2015 @12:07PM (#9341758)
Can you explain, or point me to an explanation of, _in detail_, exactly what GTalk broke in terms of federation?

I find that in practice I can _sometimes_ communicate with _some_ users from _some_ clients, but it seems like it's flaky and there's not a clear pattern to it. Do you have any deeper insight?

Re:Show HN: Kaiwa, a Modern Open-Source XMPP Web Client by stpeter on Thursday April 09, 2015 @10:27PM (#9352268)
Most of the XMPP network switched last year to REQUIRING encryption for one server to talk to another server. Google doesn't support encryption at all for server-to-server links, and thus servers like jabber.org (of which I'm the admin) can't talk to Google anymore. See more at https://github.com/stpeter/manifesto/blob/master/manifesto.t...
Re:Show HN: Kaiwa, a Modern Open-Source XMPP Web Client by jeromeflipo on Wednesday April 08, 2015 @10:23AM (#9340935)
On Gmail, you'll need to "revert to old chat" if you've enabled the "new Hangouts".