Re:Show HN: Kaiwa, a Modern Open-Source XMPP Web Client
by ge0rg on Wednesday April 08, 2015 @09:31AM
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GTalk has broken federation for Hangouts users, and they failed to enable s2s encryption, which is mandatory since February: https://github.com/stpeter/manifesto/blob/master/manifesto.t...
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Re:Show HN: Kaiwa, a Modern Open-Source XMPP Web Client
by stpeter on Wednesday April 08, 2015 @11:22AM
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Actually we (most of the XMPP network) switched over to mandatory encryption last May and IMHO it's been pretty successful so far. Google is welcome to join the party anytime! :-)
Re:Show HN: Kaiwa, a Modern Open-Source XMPP Web Client
by contingencies on Wednesday April 08, 2015 @09:45PM
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Sounds a lot like Google's behavior on GTalk amounts to 'embrace, extend, extinguish'... except that they failed.
Re:Show HN: Kaiwa, a Modern Open-Source XMPP Web Client
by gwillen on Wednesday April 08, 2015 @12:07PM
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Can you explain, or point me to an explanation of, _in detail_, exactly what GTalk broke in terms of federation?
I find that in practice I can _sometimes_ communicate with _some_ users from _some_ clients, but it seems like it's flaky and there's not a clear pattern to it. Do you have any deeper insight?
Re:Show HN: Kaiwa, a Modern Open-Source XMPP Web Client
by stpeter on Thursday April 09, 2015 @10:27PM
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Most of the XMPP network switched last year to REQUIRING encryption for one server to talk to another server. Google doesn't support encryption at all for server-to-server links, and thus servers like jabber.org (of which I'm the admin) can't talk to Google anymore. See more at https://github.com/stpeter/manifesto/blob/master/manifesto.t...