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Re:The Economist’s Tom Standage on digital strategy and the ... by drpgq on Friday April 03, 2015 @04:24AM (#9314898)
"The other thing about ads is that 41 percent of millennials are using ad block. My daughter has ad block and she goes around infecting every machine she gets to. She puts it on everything."

Didn't realize that ad block was that popular with millennials. I was always thought it was more popular with those that were tech savvy regardless of age.

Re:The Economist’s Tom Standage on digital strategy and the ... by 3pt14159 on Friday April 03, 2015 @07:55AM (#9315353)
I would guess that at least 20 points of that 41 percent is due to Youtube. Which is ironic, given that it probably hurts Google the most. For a long time I held out but after learning about ad-malware and being bothered by Youtube's 15th ad when I just wanted to listen to music, I just said screw it.
Re:The Economist’s Tom Standage on digital strategy and the ... by digi_owl on Friday April 03, 2015 @08:25AM (#9315450)
Didn't know these blockers could handle youtube video ads.

And if you really want to listen to music undisturbed, why not get a Spotify subscription?

Re:The Economist’s Tom Standage on digital strategy and the ... by 3pt14159 on Saturday April 04, 2015 @10:14PM (#9322898)
Spotify doesn't (or at least didn't when I tried it) work that well in Canada. I had a paid Rdio subscription, but the service kept getting worse. The only thing that let me play what I wanted to play was Youtube.
Re:The Economist’s Tom Standage on digital strategy and the ... by digi_owl on Friday April 03, 2015 @07:53AM (#9315345)
I think the sites brought it upon themselves by accepting ads that move and sometimes even play sounds. This distract from the content people want to read etc in ways that static images can't (tho there are some ads, for various movies etc, that can be "distracting" no matter what).
Re:The Economist’s Tom Standage on digital strategy and the ... by hallman76 on Friday April 03, 2015 @09:51AM (#9315837)
I have a report from Q3 of last year that breaks down adblocker usage by age range:

  16-24: 34% 
  25-34: 32% 
  35-44: 26% 
  45-64: 22% 
  55-64: 18%
I found those numbers pretty surprising since installing a browser extension isn't a typical user behavior.
Re:The Economist’s Tom Standage on digital strategy and the ... by probably_wrong on Friday April 03, 2015 @08:09AM (#9315402)
I found the comment about incognito mode interesting. I've been been using my browser like that for almost a year now, but I thought I was the only one. I never thought anyone outside tech would do it either.
Re:The Economist’s Tom Standage on digital strategy and the ... by virmundi on Friday April 03, 2015 @07:27AM (#9315271)
I wonder how effective ads are getting on the web anyway. I'm techy, and I filter them mentally. My wife is consumer literate technical and filters them mentally too. And I have Ad Block.
Re:The Economist’s Tom Standage on digital strategy and the ... by digi_owl on Friday April 03, 2015 @08:25AM (#9315451)
I seem to recall a recent article claiming that companies has started to ask themselves the same thing.
Re:The Economist’s Tom Standage on digital strategy and the ... by TheOtherHobbes on Friday April 03, 2015 @08:39AM (#9315491)
There's always been something cargo culty about online advertising.

If that market implodes, it's going to be... interesting.

Re:The Economist’s Tom Standage on digital strategy and the ... by ghaff on Friday April 03, 2015 @09:31AM (#9315732)
I thought that a while ago. It hasn't happened yet but that doesn't mean it won't. And even if it doesn't implode, it could certainly decline significantly.

A HUGE amount of the "free" services and content that pretty much all of us take so much for granted around the web are directly or indirectly supported by online advertising. Take that away and, as you say, it will be interesting.

Re:The Economist’s Tom Standage on digital strategy and the ... by toomuchtodo on Friday April 03, 2015 @06:58PM (#9319086)
Gmail? I'd pay for. Netflix? I already pay for. Online content? Sure, I'll pay a few bucks a month for the Economist or the NY Times. I already pay for Evernote, Flickr, etc.

What free services am I going to miss?

Re:The Economist’s Tom Standage on digital strategy and the ... by ghaff on Sunday April 05, 2015 @08:13PM (#9325801)
Search? Pretty much all content provided beyond the individual level (and even some of that)?
Re:The Economist’s Tom Standage on digital strategy and the ... by untog on Friday April 03, 2015 @10:18AM (#9315983)
But those millenials also overwhelmingly use mobile, so I'm not sure what the overall effect is there.
Re:The Economist’s Tom Standage on digital strategy and the ... by oconnore on Friday April 03, 2015 @10:29AM (#9316043)
You can install adblock and uBlock on mobile (and it's probably even more valuable, since you have less data to spare)
Re:The Economist’s Tom Standage on digital strategy and the ... by bambax on Friday April 03, 2015 @07:30AM (#9315278)
I have yet to meet someone who's aware of AdBlock's existence and doesn't use it...
Re:The Economist’s Tom Standage on digital strategy and the ... by mike_hearn on Friday April 03, 2015 @10:39AM (#9316100)
Me. I don't use it, never have.

Are ads annoying - sure. But so are paywalls, so are websites that are entirely VC funded and desperately growth hacking until they can sell out to a bigger company.

The web is an expensive thing, very expensive. By not blocking ads I'm doing my bit to help fund it. I see ad blocking as a lot like piracy: understandable in some cases, but still basically freeloading on those of us who support the creation of the content.

Re:The Economist’s Tom Standage on digital strategy and the ... by 1123581321 on Saturday April 04, 2015 @05:27PM (#9322267)
My semi-serious opinion is that by using Adblock, you are helping fund the web in the long run by collapsing bad ad-driven behavior and making more pastoral models compare favorably.
Re:The Economist’s Tom Standage on digital strategy and the ... by dublinben on Friday April 03, 2015 @06:56AM (#9315190)
>infecting

I would use a different word here, but I love her spirit!