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Re:Amazon Home Services by toyg on Monday March 30, 2015 @08:52AM (#9289119)
The problem with drones is that they're insecure. People will shoot them down for fun, and even if they don't, whenever they land they'll have to leave their packages in places that are either insecure or exposed to the elements. If it really takes off, you will need ways to manage "drone traffic" and insurance will be extremely expensive.

To top it off, they will simply not work on most days in Northern Europe, where rain and strong winds are common. I think the evolution of airplanes (which "we" believed would soon replace cars, back in the '20s) showed the problems we will always have with flying: it's a messy affair at the best of times.

I applaud Amazon for its faith in robotics, but I'd argue that we're more likely to get self-driving vans (which will either carry a very relaxed delivery guy, or will let people like supers open van doors with a code), or other incremental disruptions, before we see a wide deployment of delivery drones.

Re:Amazon Home Services by grkvlt on Monday March 30, 2015 @11:14AM (#9290040)
> People will shoot them down for fun

I hear this a lot, along with comments about self-driving cars being unusable because 'people will run in front of them to make them stop', and I just don't get it. In what country would it be deemed legal and normal for people to shoot down drones? Do people take pot-shots at light aircraft? Why would people suddenly want to shhot at drones? The same with self-driving cars - people don't run into traffic to make human drivers stop, although they would certainly try their best not to run you over, so why would they start doing it with self-driving cars. I've also heard the argument that people will vandalise the cars, destroy the LIDAR sensors and so on, but yet we don't have spates of people throwinf paint over the windscreen of normal cars. I think it says more about the mentality of the commentors that about the peeibilities for automated vehicles, flying or driving.

Re:Amazon Home Services by rhino369 on Monday March 30, 2015 @12:39PM (#9290693)
I'm not sure it is really that big of a fear, but shooting at people is totally psychopathic. Random property damage happens WAY more often than random murder.

Shooting down a drone is like throwing a rock in a window or graffiti. In a lot of areas, those crimes are a huge problem.

Re:Amazon Home Services by wyldfire on Monday March 30, 2015 @12:48PM (#9290752)
> In what country would it be deemed legal and normal for people to shoot down drones? Do people take pot-shots at light aircraft? Why would people suddenly want to shhot at drones?

I don't think it would be at all routine. But I can imagine trouble-making adolescents doing that (here in the US). Probably wouldn't be make-or-break for drones. But it would be an interesting challenge for Amazon -- how can we retrieve this equipment and how can we investigate its attack/distinguish from part failures?

Re:Amazon Home Services by unreal37 on Monday March 30, 2015 @10:12AM (#9289596)
The security concern (for the drone and the contents) is a bit overblown to me. What about all those ATM bank machines in all sorts of "insecure" places? We've somehow figured out how to keep money inside a machine that is unattended. The amount of theft that occurs on those things is minuscule and banks put the cost of such theft into their profit calculations.

The Amazon drone won't take off unless you confirm in advance (using the app) being able to accept the package, and you need to enter a code at arrival for it to release it to you. I am sure the drone can call for help, and keep lots of video and other evidence of what happened to it.

Ultimately, Amazon just calculates the loss of 1/10000 drone packages into their profit calculations.

Re:Amazon Home Services by monocasa on Monday March 30, 2015 @11:19AM (#9290084)
We solved that by making ATMs unmanageably heavy. Not the best option for a drone.
Re:Amazon Home Services by unreal37 on Monday March 30, 2015 @05:21PM (#9292690)
Yeah maybe it's not the same solution. But it's a solvable problem, I believe. I trust that the Amazon team had this conversation 2 years ago, and came to some conclusion that the risk was manageable. Would they send their lawyer to congress fighting FAA regulations if an 8-year-old kid with a pellet gun could knock one out of the sky?