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Re:Monsanto Weedkiller Is ‘Probably Carcinogenic,’ WHO Says by jp555 on Saturday March 28, 2015 @08:13AM (#9281252)
Most people cook with oil at too high a temperature, causing it to smoke and develop carcinogenic compounds, regularly, over decades. There are many examples of this in our lives (ultravilot sunlight, cosmic radiation on intercontinental flights, radon rich basement bedrooms, etc), the point being that carcinogens and cancer are more complex than you suggest. Yes smoking 4 packs of cigarettes a day for decades increases one's risk for cancer, but so does just living to an old age as a non-smoker.

I remember reading a study of cadavers that found everyone has microscopic cancers throughout their bodies, throughout their lives. It seems there's a dance between evironments that drive the proliferation of micro-cancers and our body's ability to repair this damage.

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Re:Monsanto Weedkiller Is ‘Probably Carcinogenic,’ WHO Says by pharke on Saturday March 28, 2015 @09:16AM (#9281401)
To make things even more complex, with ultra-violet for sure but possibly involving other forms of radiation as well, it is possible that small amounts of exposure actually produce a preventative effect in regards to cancer. With UV, that mechanism is the production of vitamin D in the body, a lack of which causes a wide variety of health issues and may have a link to the development of cancer.

This panel by the Mars Society actually had a very interesting discussion of this area of human health that deserves much more study. https://youtu.be/sFHQlobJbwY

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Re:Monsanto Weedkiller Is ‘Probably Carcinogenic,’ WHO Says by mkempe on Saturday March 28, 2015 @12:14PM (#9281873)
There is evidence for and debate surrouding hormesis, a positive biological response to a little bit of something deadly at higher doses e.g. low-dose radiation. [1] [2]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hormesis http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radiation_hormesis

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Re:Monsanto Weedkiller Is ‘Probably Carcinogenic,’ WHO Says by eurleif on Saturday March 28, 2015 @12:03PM (#9281831)
>With UV, that mechanism is the production of vitamin D in the body, a lack of which causes a wide variety of health issues and may have a link to the development of cancer.

I imagine that vitamin D production and DNA damage are separate events. Presumably, both can occur at the same time.

So would someone who took vitamin D supplements but didn't get sun exposure be slightly less likely to develop cancer than someone who got just enough sunlight for their body to produce enough vitamin D?

If that's the case, it's not really a general rule that small exposures to carcinogens prevent cancer.

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Re:Monsanto Weedkiller Is ‘Probably Carcinogenic,’ WHO Says by jp555 on Sunday March 29, 2015 @09:01AM (#9284667)
I've just recently seen work that's exploring vitamin D suplimation vs. sunlight derived vitamin D and they're finding the sunlight provides more benefit than no sunlight exposure and Vitamin D suplimation.
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Re:Monsanto Weedkiller Is ‘Probably Carcinogenic,’ WHO Says by drhodes on Saturday March 28, 2015 @12:13PM (#9281872)
FWIW, I have a friend with a form of skin cancer who got orders from his doctor to go to a tanning salon.
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