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Re:A significant amount of programming is done by superstition by Gravityloss on Wednesday March 25, 2015 @06:31PM (#9266457)
Gall's law is related to this.

I think it's reasonable that people want to create software components that have been proven to work and then just forget about their internal details and copy-pas... apply them.

It's also what Bret Victor has been getting at. Very often the component's input-output mapping is much more relevant than implementation details. And you can get a feel for that by fiddling with the components.

Re:A significant amount of programming is done by superstition by prawn on Wednesday March 25, 2015 @07:43PM (#9266841)
Gall's Law for anyone who didn't know or couldn't remember it:

"A complex system that works is invariably found to have evolved from a simple system that worked. A complex system designed from scratch never works and cannot be patched up to make it work. You have to start over with a working simple system." – John Gall (1975)

Re:A significant amount of programming is done by superstition by fsloth on Thursday March 26, 2015 @05:34AM (#9268545)
Thanks for the reference, this is the best quote I've found in a long while. Strangely, I was unfamiliar with this.
Re:A significant amount of programming is done by superstition by ylem on Saturday March 28, 2015 @10:43PM (#9283671)
Incidentally, he passed away recently. He had a varied career and was actually my pediatrician and encouraged my interest in astronomy. I only learned at his death about his contributions to systems theory...
Re:A significant amount of programming is done by superstition by chipsy on Wednesday March 25, 2015 @08:08PM (#9266937)
I think it's crucial to the maintenance of our superstition that we don't know which parts of the system are actually important, and we keep misleading ourselves into the wrong assumption.

For example - style considerations. Important? Yes? Maybe? Not at the moment when it reaches the computer, but important when humans have to grok it.

So then should we "lead" development by promoting style? Will that get us somewhere? Probably not as much as some other strategy. But it's still sort of important and this blogger made a nice post the other day about style, so...

Re:A significant amount of programming is done by superstition by ThrustVectoring on Wednesday March 25, 2015 @07:54PM (#9266879)
A microwave oven's input-output mapping is much more relevant than how it works. And you can get a feel for that by plugging it in and pressing the buttons.

It's a very general point - how to interact with things is often dependent on the surface, not the volume. This is the generative insight for the systems approach to engineering.