Re:Sublime Text 3 Build 3080
by jsprogrammer on Tuesday March 24, 2015 @03:14AM
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Atom may always be slower, but the speed difference could eventually become negligible. If ST3, in it's current form, existed 20 years ago, people would have been making the same argument about Vim vs. ST3.
Actually, rendering is often faster in Sublime Text than in vim. I am a vim user and use the 'cursorline' and 'relativenumber' options and until recently I could notice rendering slowness on OS X and Linux. Things seem to have gotten better recently (either in vim or due to hardware advancing), but I never saw such slowness in Sublime text.
(I wanted to like Sublime and have a license, but Vintage mode is a too leaky abstraction/emulation for me ;).)
Not s solution, the things I use in vim is not in Vintage. hjkl navigation and yy is not enough for me.
Vintageous has tons of options on top of "hjkl navigation and yy". All kinds of Vim-y stuff is there.
I hope so, but it'll require significant improvement. From the command line, "subl ." loads almost immediately, whereas "atom" can take 10+ seconds. (on a MBP with 16gb + SSD)
Ten or twenty years is a long time to wait for the hardware to improve so your editor is performant.
Atom is not that slow in practice... except the slow startup, for daily business it's fine - I'm using it with a full suite of linters and autocomplete plugins on the older MacBook Air and it's not laggy.
Re:Sublime Text 3 Build 3080
by qubitcoder on Tuesday March 24, 2015 @04:58AM
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I've made a few attempts to use Atom on a daily basis. Unfortunately, I continued to experience crashes with the linter, autocomplete, and Haskell-related plugins--or the plugins would work, only to break during the next Atom update. It also wasn't possible to use my favorite ligature-based font without breaking the cursor position. Not to mention the rendering/performance issues.
There's a lot to admire about Atom. But Sublime is stable and silky smooth. And I continue to use Vim happily every day without issue, despite its ~25 year age.
Re:Sublime Text 3 Build 3080
by Already__Taken on Tuesday March 24, 2015 @05:29AM
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If you're that interested to try the atom browser might I suggest having a look at Brackets[1]? It was out before atom and I have been using it to replace ST3 just because I liked the idea of it.
I haven't tried atom it didn't initially release with windows support so I just stayed on brackets.
[1]: http://brackets.io/
There seem to be a lot of performance related issues:
https://github.com/atom/atom/search?q=performance&state=open...
If it works for you, great. Hope you contribute and it becomes a great editor someday.
It does some weird things in full screen, especially if you have multiple windows going. I've closed one window, but the save dialog pops up on another... but when I swipe over, that dialog goes away, and the modal that I can't click on blocks the rest of the UI. Nothing but a force kill can resolve it. I've been using it 4-12 hours a day for several months, so I'm rooting for it, but losing work will always trump whatever OSS cred it has.
I seriously doubt it.
First, people kept using TextMate when it was dead for 3 years or so. The most ST3 has been idle was 6-7 months, and before and after that the update pace (for dev releases) was great.
Second, it's not like anything major was missing from the editor even 2 years ago, or that it stopped working or anything. People use Vim which is a 30 years old codebase that hasn't had major updates in a great while, so not sure were the pressure for ST is.
Third, I doubt Atom has that much adoption. For one, it is and will always be slower, due to the language and rendering model (custom C++ vs Javascript and ultimately, the DOM).
As an anecdotal point, most people at work use either Vim or ST3. Nobody uses Atom.
>* Remember TextMate? It had a huge loyal user base, but who is using it now?*
You'd be surprised.