Spolsky: Does Slow Growth Equal Slow Death?

Re:Spolsky: Does Slow Growth Equal Slow Death? by jordanb on Tuesday November 03, 2009 @08:37PM (#920703)

Probably these guys: http://www.atlassian.com/

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Re:Spolsky: Does Slow Growth Equal Slow Death? by solutionyogi on Tuesday November 03, 2009 @10:20PM (#920868)

I doubt if it's atlassian guys. My guess is that it's OnTime by Axosoft. May be Joel can clarify.

http://www.axosoft.com/ontime

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Re:Spolsky: Does Slow Growth Equal Slow Death? by ghshephard on Wednesday November 04, 2009 @01:00AM (#921154)

Atlassian goes head-head with FogCreek in terms of features and pricing. <$10K for 100+ Users. AxoSoft _starts_ at $43K for 100 Users.

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Re:Spolsky: Does Slow Growth Equal Slow Death? by brown9-2 on Tuesday November 03, 2009 @11:16PM (#920981)

I'm dubious that it is Atlassian, since they have about half a dozen other (popular) products besides a bug tracker.

At least I hope its not because I love using their products and I want Joel to do well too...

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Re:Spolsky: Does Slow Growth Equal Slow Death? by Carlfish on Wednesday November 04, 2009 @12:18AM (#921084)

I work at Atlassian and I kind of assume it's us, partly because everyone else around the Internet seems to think he's talking about us, but mostly because the Fogbugz 7 manifesto talked in all caps about people threatening to "GO OVER TO THE AUSTRALIANS".

There's a good chance he isn't, though, because the company described in that article doesn't really bear a great resemblance to Atlassian.

The business models of Fog Creek and Atlassian are far more alike than they are different. Both companies are developer-founded, private, non-VC funded and growing "within their means". Both aim for bottom-up adoption rather than selling top-down through CIOs, and (although this is apparently changing at FogCreek?) neither have a traditional sales team. Both even started off writing an issue tracker (JIRA, FogBugz) then followed up with a content management app (Confluence, CityDesk).

Before this year we didn't have a growth strategy beyond "sell lots of software, and use the money we get from that to hire more people to make more software and sell that." We've recently got (temporarily) a little more aggressive about hiring because we figured the GFC was a great time for a profitable company to snaffle up any good people who were at loose ends, especially when some of our VC-funded competition were being forced by the same circumstances to lay developers off.

So yeah, we're hiring. http://www.atlassian.com/32/ :)

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Re:Spolsky: Does Slow Growth Equal Slow Death? by noblethrasher on Wednesday November 04, 2009 @12:46AM (#921135)

Fogbugz followed CityDesk.

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Re:Spolsky: Does Slow Growth Equal Slow Death? by Carlfish on Wednesday November 04, 2009 @01:24AM (#921181)

I sit corrected. :)

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Re:Spolsky: Does Slow Growth Equal Slow Death? by ghshephard on Wednesday November 04, 2009 @01:03AM (#921156)

GFC = "Great Fucking Crash?" :-)

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Re:Spolsky: Does Slow Growth Equal Slow Death? by j_b_f on Wednesday November 04, 2009 @01:52PM (#922307)

Global Financial CrisOMGWTFauuuuughhh

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Re:Spolsky: Does Slow Growth Equal Slow Death? by pseale on Wednesday November 04, 2009 @10:07AM (#921786)

I'm going to guess TFS/VSTS from Microsoft, which is both a relatively new product, and fits his description of aggressive expansion.

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Re:Spolsky: Does Slow Growth Equal Slow Death? by dualogy on Tuesday November 03, 2009 @08:36PM (#920701)

Could be Perforce or Atlassian Jira...

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Re:Spolsky: Does Slow Growth Equal Slow Death? by zackattack on Tuesday November 03, 2009 @10:06PM (#920833)

I use JIRA at work and love it.

Jus' saying.

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