Re:Phusion Passenger 5.0.1 “Raptor” Released
by ForHackernews on Wednesday March 04, 2015 @12:24PM
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I really like Passenger for my dev servers, because you can easily run both Ruby (Rails) and Python (WSGI) applications under it. I'm not aware of another mainstream app server that offers that flexibility.
Re:Phusion Passenger 5.0.1 “Raptor” Released
by cheald on Wednesday March 04, 2015 @01:36PM
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It's because of Passenger's built-in short-term HTTP cache, which is included in the open-source version. That said, the performance gain from the charts is from caching; it's not going to make your Ruby code run 4x faster. Be sure you read https://blog.phusion.nl/2015/02/09/turbocaching-security-cha... to make sure you don't accidentally end up serving things from a cache that you intended to not be cached/shared.
Re:Phusion Passenger 5.0.1 “Raptor” Released
by fny on Wednesday March 04, 2015 @01:43PM
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So what about the hybrid concurrency model--specifically the multithreading, which seems to be enterprise only? Would one expect even higher throughput than what's shown in the charts?
Re:Phusion Passenger 5.0.1 “Raptor” Released
by FooBarWidget on Wednesday March 04, 2015 @02:03PM
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Multithreading is documented as enterprise only. Whether it helps throughput depends on your app's workload. If your app spends a lot of time waiting on IO, such as the database or external HTTP API calls, then yes it will likely improve throughput. Otherwise it won't improve throughput, though it can reduce memory usage.
Re:Phusion Passenger 5.0.1 “Raptor” Released
by fideloper on Wednesday March 04, 2015 @11:54AM
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As a (primarily) developer who is also in the DevOps "space", I'm wondering if anyone knows Phusion's usage popularity over "rolling your own" (unicorn) or Paas (Heroku) usage?
The enterprise features seem really great, although per server charging is definitely in the Enterprise range of $$$ !
Re:Phusion Passenger 5.0.1 “Raptor” Released
by mperham on Wednesday March 04, 2015 @12:38PM
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People dramatically underestimate the amount of time necessary to support a complex project like Passenger. Phusion earns every dime of that Enterprise pricing.
Re:Phusion Passenger 5.0.1 “Raptor” Released
by WillPostForFood on Wednesday March 04, 2015 @12:47PM
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I think they built their popularity by being the first really easy way to use Rails with Apache. And by being a solid, well documented, easy to use product.
Re:Phusion Passenger 5.0.1 “Raptor” Released
by subsection1h on Wednesday March 04, 2015 @03:28PM
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Heroku and Passenger aren't mutually exclusive.[1] Heroku users must choose an app server. Heroku currently recommends Puma,[2] even for apps that aren't thread safe.[3] I don't know why they don't recommended Passenger.
Re:Phusion Passenger 5.0.1 “Raptor” Released
by tinco on Wednesday March 04, 2015 @12:26PM
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Just to be clear (not sure if you're kidding) but people use Passenger (and production application servers in general) not just because they meet some minimum throughput threshold.
Passenger takes care of keeping your application alive, makes sure slow clients don't break it, automatically handles concurrency and has low latency. That's just the basics, there's a lot of configuration options for the more serious deployments.
Re:Phusion Passenger 5.0.1 “Raptor” Released
by Xorlev on Wednesday March 04, 2015 @12:59PM
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Sure, but at a few thousand visitors a month that clocks in around one request every 10 minutes or so. I'm not saying they shouldn't use Passenger or another production app server (I use Unicorn fronted by nginx personally), but it'd honestly probably be fine with Webrick. I'm also not saying that Webrick is what they'd want to be on since it doesn't really have any supervision or real smarts.
It would be really nice to a see comparison including both the open source and enterprise versions.
Everything you read about is open source, unless explicitly documented as enterprise only.
The enterprise features seem really great, although per server charging is definitely in the Enterprise range of $$$ !
[1] https://github.com/phusion/passenger-ruby-heroku-demo
[2] https://devcenter.heroku.com/changelog-items/594
[3] https://devcenter.heroku.com/articles/deploying-rails-applic...
Passenger takes care of keeping your application alive, makes sure slow clients don't break it, automatically handles concurrency and has low latency. That's just the basics, there's a lot of configuration options for the more serious deployments.
It also probably means that the server is on a $5 VM, so memory pressure is also a concern.
Passenger and Puma (from Passenger): https://github.com/phusion/passenger/wiki/Puma-vs-Phusion-Pa...