Re:Astronomers find an ancient black hole the size of 12B suns
by AshFurrow on Wednesday February 25, 2015 @05:41PM
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Mass, not size. Come on, this is basic astrophysics!
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Re:Astronomers find an ancient black hole the size of 12B suns
by semaphoreP on Wednesday February 25, 2015 @05:55PM
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Technically, the radius of a black hole is uniquely determined by its mass, so one can construct a unit system where mass and radius use the same unit of measure...
Re:Astronomers find an ancient black hole the size of 12B suns
by tjradcliffe on Wednesday February 25, 2015 @06:13PM
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I want to see that: "How many solar masses is it from Paris to London again?" (115... it's actually a kind of convenient unit, quite close to half an English league and just a bit larger than a Roman league.)
Or: "Man! I stepped on the scales today and I've put on another ten million Planck lengths!"
Re:Astronomers find an ancient black hole the size of 12B suns
by jen729w on Wednesday February 25, 2015 @06:50PM
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Randall has us covered, as always.
and
"You can even plug it into Wolfram|Alpha, and it’ll tell you that 20 MPG is about 0.1 square millimeters (roughly the area of two pixels on a computer screen)."
Re:Astronomers find an ancient black hole the size of 12B suns
by dredmorbius on Thursday February 26, 2015 @01:30AM
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Wording nit: entirely determined, not uniquely determined. The former says that mass => size. The latter says that a black hole's mass-size relationship is necessarily unique. Which I don't believe you intended.
Re:Astronomers find an ancient black hole the size of 12B suns
by hamoid on Wednesday February 25, 2015 @08:02PM
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That unit system might allow comparing black holes to other black holes. But our sun does not have the same density as a black hole, or? The nature article [1] does not compare it to the size of our sun, but to its mass.
[1] http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v518/n7540/full/nature1...
Re:Astronomers find an ancient black hole the size of 12B suns
by semaphoreP on Thursday February 26, 2015 @12:17AM
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Actually, you can use this unit system (called Geometrized units [1]) for anything, but it is especially convenient for describing black holes and general relativity in general. As a rule of thumb, in the geometrized units, 1 solar mass = ~1.5 km = ~5 microseconds. They have the same units so you can use them interchangeably (Our sun weights 5 microseconds).
I'm just being pedantic here obviously..
Re:Astronomers find an ancient black hole the size of 12B suns
by Retric on Wednesday February 25, 2015 @09:01PM
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Actually, black holes density decreases linearly as their mass increases. So, there could easily be a black hole with a density of the sun with supper massive black holes having a density near that of water.
(Where density = mass / volume inside event horizon). Because Gravity ~= Mass/distance ^ 2 but volume is 4/3 pi * r ^ 3