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Re:A different cluetrain by JackFr on Wednesday February 25, 2015 @12:03PM (#9107840)
>Since the collapse of the USSR and the rise of post-Tiananmen China it has become glaringly obvious that capitalism does not require democracy. Or even benefit from it. Capitalism as a system may well work best in the absence of democracy.

It's tough to respond to statements like this as written. 'Capitalism', 'democracy' and 'work well' are not precise terms, and the statement can be either true or false depending on the shade of meaning.

Re:A different cluetrain by metaphorm on Wednesday February 25, 2015 @12:13PM (#9107919)
I think you're searching for reasons to disagree based on semantics and technicalities and evading the very cogent points made by the author. While there is room for disagreement about some of the nuances of what is meant by "Capitalism" or "democracy", do you think that there is really any comprehension problem w.r.t Stross' use of those terms? It seemed perfectly clear to me. His usage is quite conventional.

What about the quoted passage do you actually think is ambiguous?

Re:A different cluetrain by craigyk on Wednesday February 25, 2015 @12:20PM (#9107966)
It always struck me that socialism is the economic system that in theory appears to be closest/compatible with democracy. Then again, I think what has actually become obvious is that mixed economies are what seem to work, to which I'd add not just having rules, but changing them often enough to prevent gaming of the system. So maybe in a sense messy is good not just because the real-world requires messy solutions, but because you got to keep people on their toes. Let's face it, laissez-faire or pure socialism, the weak point in either case is people subverting the system.
Re:A different cluetrain by mikeash on Wednesday February 25, 2015 @01:11PM (#9108366)
You've neatly summed up why computer people have so much trouble talking about the real world.

Some things are inherently imprecise. We can talk about them anyway.