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Re:Lenovo Statement on Superfish by jacquesm on Thursday February 19, 2015 @11:26AM (#9074869)
Lenovo is going to lose more through how they handle this than through the fact that they did it in the first place.
Re:Lenovo Statement on Superfish by osivertsson on Thursday February 19, 2015 @11:41AM (#9074968)
I agree, both in the market for products, but also for engineers.

I'm sure that Lenovo has some really smart people that right now consider if they should dust off their CV and jump ship instead of working with morons.

This kind of stupidity can really destroy morale of technical teams within an organisation.

Re:Lenovo Statement on Superfish by pjmlp on Thursday February 19, 2015 @11:29AM (#9074889)
Sadly no. Businesses will still buy Thinkpads like candies.
Re:Lenovo Statement on Superfish by jacquesm on Thursday February 19, 2015 @11:33AM (#9074911)
I'm structurally distrustful of the hardware that I buy so I rip out the drives without ever even booting them and then install Linux on a drive bought through another source. I can still see some potential issues there (drive firmware compromised, bios tricks, chipsets with junk and management devices) but that's a basic precaution against getting something you didn't actually buy.
Re:Lenovo Statement on Superfish by omegaham on Thursday February 19, 2015 @01:04PM (#9075653)
I think it rapidly turns into "How much effort are you willing to use to make yourself more secure?" There's diminishing returns as you increase your money and effort devoted. $50 and a couple hours will get you another hard drive and a Linux install. How much are you going to spend to guarantee that your BIOS and firmware aren't compromised?

There's a reason why security-conscious folks spend an enormous amount of money on the stuff that we buy for a couple hundred bucks. I'm sure that the NSA pays thousands for $100 hard drives.

Re:Lenovo Statement on Superfish by thorntonbf on Thursday February 19, 2015 @11:57AM (#9075097)
There are some interesting corollaries that make this interesting from an InfoSec perspective.

Heart of the matter is that most consumers - whether personal or business users will have little to no visibility into this. And, even a smaller fraction will have the technical chops to remove this garbage unless there's a tool that's openly presented to them.

Since there are a ton of small businesses that purchase and consume laptops just as the come out of the box, I'm really interested in the industrial espionage potential with this.

Couple in all the PRISMish like revelations over the last year and a half, and I simply have trouble putting much faith in their, "oh, it's just to show better ads, sorry..." statement.

Re:Lenovo Statement on Superfish by razster on Thursday February 19, 2015 @01:48PM (#9075995)
As a subcontractor for BIA and DOI, I can sure you that news has gone around and we will add all Lenovo products to the list of items no to purchase.
Re:Lenovo Statement on Superfish by wvenable on Thursday February 19, 2015 @12:15PM (#9075244)
Yeah and businesses run their own Windows images. Whatever software is preloaded doesn't matter.
Re:Lenovo Statement on Superfish by thorntonbf on Thursday February 19, 2015 @01:15PM (#9075727)
Big companies, yes. Small businesses, not so much.

There's certainly an unrealized support cost. But in my experience, it's pretty common to see several different manufacturers and OSs across a small business. When they need a new laptop, they're either picking up what's cheap at Best Buy or handing down machines when the boss gets a new one.

Re:Lenovo Statement on Superfish by SyneRyder on Thursday February 19, 2015 @12:22PM (#9075307)
Unless their Windows image is based on the out-of-the-box OEM install.
Re:Lenovo Statement on Superfish by databyss on Thursday February 19, 2015 @12:49PM (#9075512)
I would imagine that any company imaging their hardware has their own custom image to coincide with their windows licensing agreement and not on whatever was on the first box.
Re:Lenovo Statement on Superfish by wvenable on Thursday February 19, 2015 @12:56PM (#9075570)
Yeah, that doesn't happen.