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Re:Why I ditched Microsoft Word for LibreOffice and couldn't... by murbard2 on Wednesday February 18, 2015 @11:29AM (#9069327)
LibreOffice attempts to replicate the MS Word "experience", which is good if that's what you looking for, but which I find atrocious.

Do you have recommendations for a word processor which

- Focuses on writing text documents, doesn't attempt to do everything

- Is visual, because sometimes it's painful to go through cycle of compilation with LaTeX

- Has a minimalistic UI that focuses on semantics; which lets you mark things as sections, titles, emphasis, etc. Fonts, colors, are handled separately within a template editor

- Ideally, allows for real-time collaborative editing

Re:Why I ditched Microsoft Word for LibreOffice and couldn't... by kstrauser on Wednesday February 18, 2015 @12:45PM (#9069822)
I've switched to using Markdown for almost everything I write. Take your favorite text editor, use a nice preview app (I like Marked 2 for OS X) for tweaking, and enjoy plaintext, grep-able, Git-able, docs that are trivially readable even without a special viewer.

That's obviously not an option for everything, but I've used it for everything from internal documentation to slides to blog posts.

Re:Why I ditched Microsoft Word for LibreOffice and couldn't... by w1ntermute on Wednesday February 18, 2015 @12:09PM (#9069579)
> sometimes it's painful to go through cycle of compilation with LaTeX

I've found that successful use of LaTeX requires you to avoid compiling on a regular basis. When I write something in LaTeX, I chunk the time I spend on formatting/compiling, so that it doesn't interfere with writing. I also find it helpful to construct multi-file templates that enable modularity and reuse.

The only time I really use a GUI is for formatting equations, since being able to see the change right away is very helpful.

Re:Why I ditched Microsoft Word for LibreOffice and couldn't... by rhinoceraptor on Wednesday February 18, 2015 @12:24PM (#9069684)
I'm a fan of Gummi (https://github.com/alexandervdm/gummi) for hand writing LaTeX.

It will auto compile your changes, as well as hide the messy intermediate files in the compilation from your directory which I appreciate.

Re:Why I ditched Microsoft Word for LibreOffice and couldn't... by kot-behemoth on Wednesday February 18, 2015 @11:55AM (#9069490)
Have you tried LyX (http://www.lyx.org)? It's a WYSIWYM (your first point) graphical editor for LaTeX and as far as I remember shows you a pretty good preview of your document as you're typing (your second point).
Re:Why I ditched Microsoft Word for LibreOffice and couldn't... by louhike on Wednesday February 18, 2015 @12:07PM (#9069572)
Relative to LaTeX:

Has anyone heard of professional use of LaTeX outside of the scientific fields?

I've seen a lot of good examples of the power of LaTeX but all seems ot have been made by scientists. And I tried to convince my girlfriend who is in the edition/layout field (not sure of the correct name). she already knew LaTeX (at my surprise) and she thought the examples were unimpressives. She doesn't anybody in her field using it professionally.

So I was wondering if her experience was specific or it was really unused outsite science. Any feedback on this one?

Re:Why I ditched Microsoft Word for LibreOffice and couldn't... by slowhands on Wednesday February 18, 2015 @12:45PM (#9069819)
The answer is a resounding 'no'. Typesetting is something that is nearly completely done by InDesign at large shops — the advantages of LaTeX just aren't appreciable when laying out photo-heavy books that use layouts custom to each book. 99% of the things InDesign can do are definitely replicable in LaTeX, but it'd be a ton of work and would require one hell of a knowledge of LaTeX libraries. Contrast this with the fact that a competent high schooler with some knowledge of design can pump out great looking layouts with InDesign. LaTeX is great for personal documents and publications where layout has been wholly standardized, but those situations are quite rare for publishing firms.
Re:Why I ditched Microsoft Word for LibreOffice and couldn't... by noamyoungerm on Wednesday February 18, 2015 @12:43PM (#9069813)
LaTeX is pretty dead outside of science, and it makes sense that this is the state of things.

Using LaTeX effectively requires the same ways of thinking needed in order to write code. For people who aren't used to doing this, adjusting from Word to LaTeX is not going to be easy.

In the professional publishing fields, editors have overcome the shortcomings of Word in a completely different way - using advanced GUI tools that have hundreds of options and settings that you have to learn, but that let you have instant feedback on your decisions. Admittedly, programs such as InDesign can actually make prettier documents than LaTeX, but the comparative amount of effort you need to invest makes it rather a bad tradeoff for someone who already knows LaTeX.

LaTeX is good at making consistently beautiful documents fast, while professional publishing tools let you invest lots of effort into getting something even more beautiful, or downright ugly. For the scientist, LaTeX wins easily, but for someone whose primary job is to make things as pretty as they can be, it is not so.

Re:Why I ditched Microsoft Word for LibreOffice and couldn't... by davidgerard on Wednesday February 18, 2015 @12:21PM (#9069668)
What real-life scientists do: write their paper in Word then change the font to Computer Modern. (I'm not joking in the slightest.)
Re:Why I ditched Microsoft Word for LibreOffice and couldn't... by dublinben on Wednesday February 18, 2015 @12:10PM (#9069593)
There's a lot of unprofessional behavior and software practices in the "professional" publishing field. Many authors refuse to write in anything but MS Word, and companies rely on Track Changes for version control of manuscripts.
Re:Why I ditched Microsoft Word for LibreOffice and couldn't... by FireBeyond on Wednesday February 18, 2015 @04:58PM (#9071236)
I'm definitely not an everyday user of Track Changes, but isn't that the very use case for it, version control inside a manuscript?

The biggest caveat I've seen to its use are ballooning file sizes (meh), and (more importantly) leaking information. But I also thought recent versions of Word made it more prominent to discard tracking information when doing a Save/As.

Re:Why I ditched Microsoft Word for LibreOffice and couldn't... by cwyers on Wednesday February 18, 2015 @12:41PM (#9069796)
Why is that unprofessional?
Re:Why I ditched Microsoft Word for LibreOffice and couldn't... by JTon on Wednesday February 18, 2015 @12:06PM (#9069562)
Is it just me or are acronyms being dropped on this site growing longer every day? :)

"what you see is what you mean" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WYSIWYM