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Re:Firefox Nightly now plays Amazon.com Flash videos using S... by cpeterso on Friday February 13, 2015 @03:25AM (#9043419)
Yes and no. Shumway is in a race to stay relevant as Flash fades from the web, but there will always be a long-tail of Flash content that would/will be lost when Adobe or browsers stop supporting the Flash plugin.

Even YouTube must continue to support Flash video for at least another year because many websites embedded Flash videos using YouTube's boilerplate embedding HTML with the Flash <object> tag. Google can't magically rewrite these third-party websites' HTML. :) Maybe YouTube can use some SWF that loads or redirects people to youtube.com? Or browsers could recognize YouTube's boilerplate embedding HTML and rewrite it with YouTube's HTML5 video.

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Re:Firefox Nightly now plays Amazon.com Flash videos using S... by hammerandtongs on Friday February 13, 2015 @12:34PM (#9045556)
This is a serious point though.

Flash, while pretty atrocious, is part of the cultural legacy of the web.

Someday shumway may be the only way reasonable way to access this via archive.org etc.

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Re:Firefox Nightly now plays Amazon.com Flash videos using S... by tschneidereit on Saturday February 14, 2015 @08:22AM (#9049583)
This is indeed a major consideration: Flash will undoubtedly go away as a player, and if we don't want to lose all the legacy content with it as if it were stored on floppy disks, Shumway or something like it is the only solution.

Note that for a lot of content, it's not even required to use Shumway in the form of a browser extension or built-in system: it's perfectly possible to run SWFs with Shumway as a website-deployed player. E.g., the header on http://areweflashyet.com is deployed that way and works just fine in all modern browsers.

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Re:Firefox Nightly now plays Amazon.com Flash videos using S... by niutech on Sunday February 15, 2015 @06:32AM (#9052368)
Well, it does not work in Chrome on iOS 7.
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Re:Firefox Nightly now plays Amazon.com Flash videos using S... by tschneidereit on Sunday February 15, 2015 @08:41AM (#9052571)
Thanks, bug filed: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1133323
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Re:Firefox Nightly now plays Amazon.com Flash videos using S... by proveanegative on Friday February 13, 2015 @04:40AM (#9043582)
>browsers could recognize YouTube's boilerplate embedding HTML and rewrite it with YouTube's HTML5 video.

Browsers themselves don't need to do it. It could be a (very useful) browser extension or a user script.

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Re:Firefox Nightly now plays Amazon.com Flash videos using S... by threedaymonk on Friday February 13, 2015 @05:10AM (#9043656)
Here's the user script I use (I've not allowed Flash on my computers since about 2010):

https://github.com/threedaymonk/userscripts/blob/master/yout...

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