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Re:YouTube Ditches Flash, and It Hardly Matters by ianlevesque on Saturday February 07, 2015 @02:19AM (#9013358)
It definitely is in a tightly locked cage. Firefox even generates the device fingerprint itself rather than allow any machine access. An EME module cannot access the Internet, nor store data to the hard drive. There's a detailed writeup here: https://hacks.mozilla.org/2014/05/reconciling-mozillas-missi...
Re:YouTube Ditches Flash, and It Hardly Matters by belorn on Saturday February 07, 2015 @04:44AM (#9013568)
An interesting technical claim to sandbox a process in such a way that it has free access to display drivers and hardware modules (tpm's) but not the host system, network or hard drive.

I would like to see a security audit on that claim.

Re:YouTube Ditches Flash, and It Hardly Matters by ianlevesque on Saturday February 07, 2015 @01:52PM (#9014894)
I'm no expert on the Firefox source code but it appears the relevant code is here https://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/file/193c4c5c7ec2/med...
Re:YouTube Ditches Flash, and It Hardly Matters by SixSigma on Saturday February 07, 2015 @07:50AM (#9013813)
This is a bad thing.

No saving means :

No time shifting, no device shifting, no legal fair use.

Re:YouTube Ditches Flash, and It Hardly Matters by mccr8 on Saturday February 07, 2015 @12:53PM (#9014689)
I'd guess that the larger barrier to the lack of saving is the desires of the copyright holders who decide what the EME module can do, rather than the permissiveness of the sandbox.
Re:YouTube Ditches Flash, and It Hardly Matters by DougBTX on Saturday February 07, 2015 @08:19AM (#9013864)
Exaggerating claims beyond a certain point makes them unconvincing. For example, the BBC's iPlayer is designed for time shifting and device shifting, and it has always used restrictive DRM, so saying that DRM prevents that just makes the argument look wrong to semi-informed users.
Re:YouTube Ditches Flash, and It Hardly Matters by falcolas on Saturday February 07, 2015 @10:42AM (#9014250)
> saying that DRM prevents that just makes the argument look wrong to semi-informed users.

It does prevent these uses, however, unless the content provider explicitly provides it. The US law says that the content provider does not need to explicitly allow it; it's a right granted to the user by copyright law.

Re:YouTube Ditches Flash, and It Hardly Matters by SixSigma on Saturday February 07, 2015 @11:41AM (#9014440)
> For example, the BBC's iPlayer is designed for time shifting and device shifting

Cool, can you show me how to play the content on my portable MP4 player please.

Re:YouTube Ditches Flash, and It Hardly Matters by JupiterMoon on Saturday February 07, 2015 @12:27PM (#9014607)
get-iplayer?
Re:YouTube Ditches Flash, and It Hardly Matters by SixSigma on Saturday February 07, 2015 @02:48PM (#9015081)
I searched the BBC website but I can't find that anywhere.
Re:YouTube Ditches Flash, and It Hardly Matters by gergles on Saturday February 07, 2015 @12:46PM (#9014666)
Which relies on the flash streaming protocol, so here we are back at square one.
Re:YouTube Ditches Flash, and It Hardly Matters by JupiterMoon on Saturday February 07, 2015 @01:29PM (#9014811)
Actually we're worse. As I understand it UK law considers that because flash based DRM is weak it doesn't count as DRM and hence get-iplayer is legal. Will this hold when/if the BBC switches to the new boss?
Re:YouTube Ditches Flash, and It Hardly Matters by M2Ys4U on Saturday February 07, 2015 @02:06PM (#9014944)
>As I understand it UK law considers that because flash based DRM is weak it doesn't count as DRM

Unfortunately, no. I think you may be getting tripped up by the phrase "effective technological measures" - being "effective" is a very, very low bar. To quote s296ZF of the Copyright, Designs and Patents Act 1988:[0]

“technological measures” are any technology, device or component which is designed, in the normal course of its operation, to protect a copyright work other than a computer program.

(2)Such measures are “effective” if the use of the work is controlled by the copyright owner through—

(a)an access control or protection process such as encryption, scrambling or other transformation of the work, or

(b)a copy control mechanism,

which achieves the intended protection.

[0] http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1988/48/section/296ZF