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Re:Apple Pulls the Plug Completely on ZFS by wmf on Friday October 23, 2009 @04:37PM (#899573)
Unfortunately, if Apple dropped ZFS because of the NetApp lawsuit that means their homegrown next-gen filesystem will probably avoid many of the efficient-yet-patented techniques found in ZFS.
Re:Apple Pulls the Plug Completely on ZFS by protomyth on Friday October 23, 2009 @04:43PM (#899586)
They could license the patents. NetApp has a 9.6B market cap, so it would not be an easy takeover target.
Re:Apple Pulls the Plug Completely on ZFS by martingordon on Friday October 23, 2009 @04:57PM (#899609)
Except that Apple has $30B+ in cash. Still, Apple could roll their own for much less than the $9.6B NetApp is worth.
Re:Apple Pulls the Plug Completely on ZFS by pbhjpbhj on Friday October 23, 2009 @05:28PM (#899657)
How much could they roll their own for, few hundred thousand? Depends on timescale and starting point I suppose. But let's call it $1Million USD. That surely puts an upper bound on licensing the tech needed from NetApp to continue with ZFS. Perhaps they just think ZFS sucks?
Re:Apple Pulls the Plug Completely on ZFS by rbanffy on Friday October 23, 2009 @06:10PM (#899716)
Yeah, right. And they have been hanging to HFS+ for all this time because they knew it's a solid base for future development...

Sorry for the sarcasm, but I couldn't resist, but the very idea of Apple making a storage system like ZFS out of thin air is very... optimistic.

Re:Apple Pulls the Plug Completely on ZFS by Tuna-Fish on Saturday October 24, 2009 @05:37AM (#900305)
$1Million for a next-gen filesystem? The programmer wages for the testing phase will cost 10 times that.
Re:Apple Pulls the Plug Completely on ZFS by pbhjpbhj on Saturday October 24, 2009 @06:01AM (#900314)
Hans Reiser made a couple for no wages ... I guess that muddies the waters when considering the baseline for me.
Re:Apple Pulls the Plug Completely on ZFS by dagw on Saturday October 24, 2009 @09:51AM (#900453)
Writing a file system isn't the hard part. Testing and verifying that it actually works under all kinds of strange scenarios and to make really really sure it won't corrupt your data, no matter what. That's the hard (and expensive) part. I seem to recall reiserFS being plagued with a number of bugs that only showed in uncommon corner cases that trivial testing wouldn't find.
Re:Apple Pulls the Plug Completely on ZFS by protomyth on Friday October 23, 2009 @06:10PM (#899717)
I wouldn't expect them to use ZFS. It would be a really messed up court case when NetApps licensed the patents so Apple could use ZFS which NetApps was suing Sun / Oracle for a patent violation (head hurts). I would expect they would do a license to cover their own implementation of a file system.