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Re:The Big Lie: 5.6% Unemployment by smackfu on Tuesday February 03, 2015 @01:11PM (#8991993)
Boy, a polling org putting up political opinion pieces sure seems like a terrible idea.
Re:The Big Lie: 5.6% Unemployment by muglug on Tuesday February 03, 2015 @01:17PM (#8992043)
It seems like it's equally about promoting one of Gallup's products, the "good job" metric they link to. I don't see anything partisan in the piece, simply because the same unemployment metric has been used by both Republicans and Democrats to further their goals.
Re:The Big Lie: 5.6% Unemployment by smackfu on Tuesday February 03, 2015 @01:25PM (#8992130)
Here's a piece from a conservative think tank that is essentially the same argument as what is in the "non-partisan" Gallup opinion poll: https://www.aei.org/publication/tracking-the-unreported-15-6...

It's been a pretty common talking point.

Re:The Big Lie: 5.6% Unemployment by jsnk on Tuesday February 03, 2015 @01:18PM (#8992055)
I don't see anything wrong with presenting facts unless they are wrong. These facts don't look good on media outlets and Obama, but facts are facts. What I want to know is if these facts are true.
Re:The Big Lie: 5.6% Unemployment by fixermark on Tuesday February 03, 2015 @01:38PM (#8992249)
This is an opinion piece though; there are facts (in the "lies, damn lies, and statistics" category) that state summary information about the world, and this author interprets those facts in a particular fashion.

There's not a lot of truth value one can assign to a statement like "A good job is an individual's primary identity, their very self-worth, their dignity -- it establishes the relationship they have with their friends, community and country." Well, I suppose one could if one were, say, Gallup and could poll on the question of how many people agree with that statement. But I'm unaware of such a poll at this time. ;)

Re:The Big Lie: 5.6% Unemployment by andrewmutz on Tuesday February 03, 2015 @01:30PM (#8992182)
Yeah, it's probably the CEO promoting his own book: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Coming_Jobs_War
Re:The Big Lie: 5.6% Unemployment by smackfu on Tuesday February 03, 2015 @01:47PM (#8992315)
Aha, he has a book. Is he running for office soon?
Re:The Big Lie: 5.6% Unemployment by astazangasta on Tuesday February 03, 2015 @01:36PM (#8992226)
Do you are think people who run polling organizations don't have political views? How about Pew? Yahoo? Even the AP? They all do. Why not speak from them? If it doesn't compromise their survey methodology, what's the problem?

If you don't know, Gallup was founded on an extremely ideological position: that public opinion matters, and politicians should seek to understand what it is as a guide, and we need tools and organizations devoted to studying it. It seems natural they would advocate for a better informed public.

Re:The Big Lie: 5.6% Unemployment by smackfu on Tuesday February 03, 2015 @01:49PM (#8992327)
I think that if the CEO of a polling company were to come out and endorse a candidate, I would have a really hard time trusting their polls on that race.
Re:The Big Lie: 5.6% Unemployment by jobu on Tuesday February 03, 2015 @01:23PM (#8992109)
It seems more an opinion piece about the unemployment metric than about the politics. Granted, the White House is mentioned, but more for framing than any political slant.
Re:The Big Lie: 5.6% Unemployment by zurn91 on Tuesday February 03, 2015 @01:15PM (#8992028)
Seems like a pretty damning article to everyone currently in a position of power, not one political side or the other.
Re:The Big Lie: 5.6% Unemployment by fixermark on Tuesday February 03, 2015 @01:39PM (#8992252)
Only depending on how one evaluates the non-factually-substantiated assertions in the opinion piece.
Re:The Big Lie: 5.6% Unemployment by greenjellybean on Tuesday February 03, 2015 @01:13PM (#8992011)
I agree, gotta get those views though right?