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Re:When arts die, they turn into hobbies by puranjay on Wednesday January 28, 2015 @05:20PM (#8962917)
There are some exceptions, of course. Lord Byron's poets regularly sold out and were very profitable. As was Tennyson and Robert Browning's poetry.

If we had perpetual copyright, I suspect Shakespeare's estate would be worth several billion dollars.

Re:When arts die, they turn into hobbies by gizmo686 on Wednesday January 28, 2015 @05:31PM (#8962982)
If we had perpetual copyright, Shakespeare would have been sued out of existence.
Re:When arts die, they turn into hobbies by deciplex on Wednesday January 28, 2015 @09:47PM (#8964042)
To expand on this, if we had perpetual copyright, we wouldn't have culture.
Re:When arts die, they turn into hobbies by visakanv on Wednesday January 28, 2015 @10:54PM (#8964233)
Love that somebody raised this. :-) Same applies to Disney.
Re:When arts die, they turn into hobbies by ggrothendieck on Wednesday January 28, 2015 @09:31PM (#8963986)
Leonard Cohen managed to monetize his poetry through his music.
Re:When arts die, they turn into hobbies by dgabriel on Wednesday January 28, 2015 @05:25PM (#8962945)
And even now we have spoken word and slam poets that sell out clubs & college gigs, and make ends meet on that. They are profound exceptions. And, also, Shakespeare's profits would be almost entirely due to his plays.
Re:When arts die, they turn into hobbies by puranjay on Wednesday January 28, 2015 @05:42PM (#8963029)
We can make a comparison with stand-up comedians. The majority don't make anything from it and a very large number don't even have any professional aspirations.

Yet, professional comedians make good money. The best are multimillionaires.

The developments the author points out aren't exactly new or exclusive to this century. You can trace them back to the Industrial Revolution. The 19th century English novelists I read seemed to populate their novels with characters who did nothing but drink tea, read books, make smart quips and over the summer, play a game or two of cricket (hallmarks of the quintessential Victorian gentleman, I was told). You had people who read as a hobby, and people who 'read' (and write about their reading) as a vocation (Matthew Arnold comes to mind, as do an unending list of independent lexicographers, researchers, and scientists).

Re:When arts die, they turn into hobbies by TheOtherHobbes on Thursday January 29, 2015 @06:02AM (#8965408)
The power curve in the arts is brutal. You're either in a handful of extreme successes, or you're making close to the nothing.

And extreme success isn't stable. You can fall from the top into nowhere-land at any time.

It's ironic that many engineers believe the arts are a soft career option.

Re:When arts die, they turn into hobbies by Retra on Wednesday January 28, 2015 @07:17PM (#8963507)
Would anybody be teaching Shakespeare if you had to pay for it?
Re:When arts die, they turn into hobbies by johan_larson on Thursday January 29, 2015 @05:34AM (#8965321)
Plenty of courses get taught on literature recent enough that it is not yet in the public domain. Here's one:

http://www.openculture.com/2013/02/david_foster_wallaces_199...

So yes, Shakespeare would probably still be taught, though the plays would cost a bit more.

Re:When arts die, they turn into hobbies by Retra on Thursday January 29, 2015 @04:26PM (#8968931)
Yes, but those are taught because they have a modern perspective which you won't get from Shakespeare. And it is hard to say that contemporary classics will last 300 years if you keep them locked under copy-write the whole time.

My point is that a world with Shakespeare under perpetual copy-write is different enough from this world that it would be very difficult to predict whether or not it would retain its status as a teaching necessity. It could very well be the case that we would be teaching modern renditions of folk tales instead. Or that someone else would write Shakespeare-style archetypes in a more accessible format, and we'd use that instead.

Everybody knows Shakespeare because everybody knows Shakespeare. Its hard to say exactly how much of that is undone by copy-write.