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Re:WhatsApp doesn't understand the web by ddeck on Thursday January 22, 2015 @08:00AM (#8928909)
Telegram store your message and conversation history on their servers, whereas Whatsapp run somewhat like SMS - they pass your message on to the destination and then forget about it.

Clearly every point in the chain matters, but it always surprised me that a company that puts so much emphasis on security and privacy thinks it's a good idea to keep your messages in the cloud:

"Unlike WhatsApp, Telegram is cloud-based and heavily encrypted. As a result, you can access your messages from several devices at once"[1]

[1] https://telegram.org/faq

Re:WhatsApp doesn't understand the web by TillE on Thursday January 22, 2015 @08:13AM (#8928944)
There's absolutely nothing wrong with putting your encrypted data anywhere and everywhere, as long as you are the only one who has the encryption key.

Unfortunately, it sounds like that's not what Telegram is doing with its non-"secret" messages.

Re:WhatsApp doesn't understand the web by ownagefool on Thursday January 22, 2015 @08:37AM (#8929032)
Actually, you have to assume that any encryption is a temporary measure; it can and will be broken in the future. With that in mind, if something is worth encrypting, it's possible you don't want the service to store it after it's useful.

Of course, whatsapp could register devices which are thrown away after x days without delivery then store the messages until delivered to all end devices but that's likely a core infrastructure update which would require them to store more data, not the same as just writing another client.

Still, what they've created as a web client is a little batty; typically I'd want to use those when I can't find my phone.

Re:WhatsApp doesn't understand the web by NietTim on Thursday January 22, 2015 @09:31AM (#8929264)
So instead the intelligence agencies intercept all whatsapp traffic and crack that. Not much difference
Re:WhatsApp doesn't understand the web by TeeWEE on Thursday January 22, 2015 @08:45AM (#8929061)
I assume investors of telegram are Russian big dudes, and they use it to control people. Thats why they store it on their server.

I know, this is a wild guess. Id rather use whatsapp.