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Re:Speaking While Female by o0-0o on Monday January 12, 2015 @11:44AM (#8874825)
Speaking as a man, I would prefer that we use the term woman. As in, "Speaking as a Woman". The term female is without species. Female giraffe? Female water buffalo? Female human!
Re:Speaking While Female by wxs on Monday January 12, 2015 @12:00PM (#8874935)
They're referencing the structure of the phrase "Driving While Black". It gets the feeling of oppression across in 3 words in a way that "Speaking as a Woman" would not.
Re:Speaking While Female by Jun8 on Monday January 12, 2015 @12:02PM (#8874945)
I guess they wanted to mirror the "Driving While Black" phrase (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Driving_While_Black).
Re:Speaking While Female by ipsin on Monday January 12, 2015 @12:03PM (#8874952)
I think the title was meant to make the reader feel uncomfortable, and to echo the concept of "Driving While Black".
Re:Speaking While Female by mralvar on Monday January 12, 2015 @11:56AM (#8874904)
Yeah I agree the term female has this almost creepy de-humanizing sound to it.
Re:Speaking While Female by frandroid on Monday January 12, 2015 @12:21PM (#8875045)
In other languages such as French, female is applied exclusively to non-human animals.
Re:Speaking While Female by vacri on Monday January 12, 2015 @02:12PM (#8875776)
Yes, but in French, scissors and chairs have genders as well. The French language experience of genders simply does not translate to English.
Re:Speaking While Female by mralvar on Monday January 12, 2015 @12:39PM (#8875174)
So it's not just me but the grammar of other languages as well! Good to know.
Re:Speaking While Female by Torgo on Monday January 12, 2015 @01:05PM (#8875374)
Speaking as a male, I would prefer we use the terms male and female. Because they don't carry all the anglo cultural connotations that come along with "man" and "woman".
Re:Speaking While Female by hvs on Monday January 12, 2015 @11:58AM (#8874920)
I think the "speaking" part clarifies the species.
Re:Speaking While Female by longlivegnu on Monday January 12, 2015 @12:49PM (#8875251)
I don't think so, apes speak to each other and you cannot understand them. Dolphins speak to each other and you cannot understand them. Speaking is not a human only action.
Re:Speaking While Female by vacri on Monday January 12, 2015 @02:15PM (#8875796)
While yes, they were going for a poetic comparison to 'Driving whilst black', I'd prefer we use 'woman' as the noun and 'female' as the adjective. 'Woman driver' and 'woman CEO' are phrases we see that don't have the counterparts 'man driver' or 'man CEO', for example.
Re:Speaking While Female by dragonwriter on Monday January 12, 2015 @02:20PM (#8875825)
> While yes, they were going for a poetic comparison to 'Driving whilst black', I'd prefer we use 'woman' as the noun and 'female' as the adjective.

It was using "female" as the adjective. If it was being used as a noun, it would have to be "Driving while a female".

Re:Speaking While Female by vacri on Monday January 12, 2015 @02:24PM (#8875854)
Sorry, I meant to make that more as a broader point, not about that phrase specifically.
Re:Speaking While Female by cookiecaper on Monday January 12, 2015 @12:17PM (#8875022)
This type of specienormativism is an example of the pure bigotry that is holding all of us back! Who are you to say that the speaker is not a female giraffe? Why do you assume she wouldn't be?

We all have the right to self-define, and then brutally ostracize people who reject our self-definitions.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Otherkin

Re:Speaking While Female by dragonwriter on Monday January 12, 2015 @01:09PM (#8875415)
> The term female is without species.

Since the issue being discussed was gender, not species, that's appropriate.

Re:Speaking While Female by VLM on Monday January 12, 2015 @12:03PM (#8874950)
Note that you changed it from "while" implying temporary, to "as" implying permanence. The temporary-ness of the title has a very strange angle having nothing to do with the story. Given the title I expected a story about the experiences of MtoF trans- people speaking out. Which would have probably been more interesting than the actual story.