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Re:A Career in Science Will Cost You Your Firstborn by dsacco on Saturday January 10, 2015 @12:05PM (#8867139)
Hey Thomas!

Yeah, everything you're saying here is obviously true.

I tried to make the salary bands encompass most of the consultancies that operate in NY and SF (Matasano, iSec, Accuvant, Cigital, Neohapsis, Include, and lots more). As such, it doesn't square exactly with what Matasano offers.

I also want to underscore what you said about pay cuts - good firms and good managers are going to be receptive to your needs. Once you get to 'Yes', they want you, and the value you will deliver as a consultant at one of these shops will eclipse your fully loaded cost.

Finally, I want to share another piece of advice for anyone looking to go into infosec - like anything else, there are good firms and not so good firms. I won't speak ill of any specific company, but firms like Accuvant, Matasano and iSec should usually be your first attempt to break in. They are receptive to developers with no security experience.

Pick up The Web Application Hacker's Handbook (showing its age a little now, but still the only book you need to start in web app security) and read through it.

Other firms sometimes have you do ridiculous amounts of travel (75%+) without informing you of this upfront, or they are firms without good hiring standards (or firing standards) and operate mostly as point and click vulnerability scanners where you won't learn much and you'll be underpaid.

It really, really helps to reach out to people directly and ask them how they like where they work and try to get a referral to interview through them.

Re:A Career in Science Will Cost You Your Firstborn by tptacek on Saturday January 10, 2015 @12:07PM (#8867145)
Pro-tip: If you call Matasano interested in a job, they'll send you the WAHH book and a couple others. You shouldn't even need to ask; at the end of the call, they should just ask you for your shipping address.
Re:A Career in Science Will Cost You Your Firstborn by dsacco on Saturday January 10, 2015 @12:14PM (#8867167)
^^ Exhibit A: One of the firms you'd want to try your hand at working for first :)

They might also send / you'd want to read:

- Gray Hat Python (debugging and fuzzing with Python)

- The Tangled Web (web browser security and insecurity)

- The Art of Software Security Assessment - the bible, which you really want to read as it's a foundational text. Very dense, but you'll come out of it knowing how to attack memory very well.

Re:A Career in Science Will Cost You Your Firstborn by sarciszewski on Tuesday January 13, 2015 @07:24AM (#8879301)
That's actually kind of awesome.