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Re:Wifiphisher: Fast automated phishing attacks against WPA ... by ikeboy on Sunday January 04, 2015 @11:19AM (#8834829)
This looks really cool. However, when I first read the words "social engineering", I expected it to create another access point encrypted the same way, and get the code direct from the victim. This way seems less fool-proof.

Is my suggestion at all possible, or is the code transmitted while connecting useless unless you already have it? (Well it's not useless, as it can be brute-forced by aircrack-ng locally. I'm wondering if what's transmitted is like a hash of the passphrase, which isn't useful, or encrypted with a one time key sent by the access point, in which case my idea is much better.)

Re:Wifiphisher: Fast automated phishing attacks against WPA ... by ytjohn on Sunday January 04, 2015 @11:43AM (#8834904)
The code is never trasnmitted. The data is encrypted with the code and only the code on the other side can be used to decrypt it.

Most brute-force systems work by capturing packets to hard drive and then attempting to decrypt them offline. Or you can upload your captures to the cloud: https://www.cloudcracker.com/

Re:Wifiphisher: Fast automated phishing attacks against WPA ... by ikeboy on Sunday January 04, 2015 @07:31PM (#8836526)
What about setting up a WEP access point to impersonate the WPA one, then getting the password from that? Still seems more likely to work than what it's doing now.
Re:Wifiphisher: Fast automated phishing attacks against WPA ... by jagermo on Monday January 05, 2015 @03:10AM (#8837822)
You'd still need the Pre-Shared key to create a legitemate looking access point, so it is kind of a catch-22.

WPA/WPA2 as a system is actually not that bad (for home use).

Re:Wifiphisher: Fast automated phishing attacks against WPA ... by ikeboy on Monday January 05, 2015 @11:51AM (#8839681)
Why? If WEP is vulnerable, then if victim connects to a WEP fake and enters their password, we should be able to read that. Like a downgrade attack.
Re:Wifiphisher: Fast automated phishing attacks against WPA ... by ikeboy on Sunday January 04, 2015 @12:45PM (#8835131)
Would this work against WEP? Or is the standard capture and crack better?
Re:Wifiphisher: Fast automated phishing attacks against WPA ... by thefreeman on Sunday January 04, 2015 @01:11PM (#8835225)
You can attack WEP with active attack that defeats the encryption in a matter of seconds. The only thing you need to remember about WEP is just don't use it.
Re:Wifiphisher: Fast automated phishing attacks against WPA ... by chrisfarms on Sunday January 04, 2015 @11:39AM (#8834891)
The key (nor a hash of the key) is sent over the air. It's a challenge. Since both sides should know the key they can challenge each other by saying things like "encrypt the word 'horse' using our secret key" ... then they can compare the result.
Re:Wifiphisher: Fast automated phishing attacks against WPA ... by jagermo on Monday January 05, 2015 @03:10AM (#8837824)
I think you forgot a "never" in an otherwise good explanation :)
Re:Wifiphisher: Fast automated phishing attacks against WPA ... by drinkyouroj on Sunday January 04, 2015 @11:51AM (#8834936)
Your method sounds to me like a pretty standard PSK crack: deauth client, collect auth handshake, repeat until you have enough packets to crack the passphrase. But collecting enough packets to crack the PSK becomes more difficult as the number of clients disconnecting/reconnecting goes down and the complexity of the PSK goes up. If you're trying to connect to a home AP with a halfway-decent passphrase, it can take days (or weeks) to collect enough auth packets.

Man-in-the-middle, on the other hand, takes almost no time at all - just a gullible user with the passphrase. This method seems like it would be especially effective against most home APs, which is the same case that is less-than-ideal for the other method.

Re:Wifiphisher: Fast automated phishing attacks against WPA ... by gipsies on Sunday January 04, 2015 @12:35PM (#8835100)
A bruteforce attack against the PSK handshake requires only a single handshake to be captured. There are no known techniques to speed up the attack if more handshakes are captured.

Man-in-the-middle attacks against WPA are not trivial at all. The client and access point perform mutual authentication. If you don't know the password, you can't put up an identical rogue access point. The passphrase is never explicitly included in the handshake, only in "protected" forms (in challenge/response messages).

Re:Wifiphisher: Fast automated phishing attacks against WPA ... by drinkyouroj on Sunday January 04, 2015 @01:45PM (#8835349)
Ah, you're right about only needing a single handshake. I don't make a habit of "security testing" wifi networks, but with WEP I seem to remember something about increasing the odds of your cracked key being correct based on the number of packets at your disposal. Anyway, I looked a little deeper and that's certainly not the case with WPA.

I didn't mean to imply that MitM is trivial, just that it's quicker than brute-force in many cases. And, I assumed the rogue AP was not doing true WPA encryption like the real AP, just enough to make it appear correct to get clients to connect so you can serve the fake control panel. If you need the passphrase to stand up the rogue AP, what is the point of this attack? You're not phishing for anything but the WPA key.

EDIT: just read your comment about how this actually works (that is, the "rogue" AP is just another unencrypted network.) That's actually really lame, and I withdraw my previous praise for this crack. ;)