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Re:"Who cares if Erlang starts slowly? It was designed to s... by wmf on Tuesday December 11, 2007 @03:17PM (#88377)
Another interesting quote from the same message: "repeat after me: client = flash in the browser, server = erlang. Intermediate protocol = flash AMF"

Now that's opinionated software.

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Re:"Who cares if Erlang starts slowly? It was designed to s... by davidw on Tuesday December 11, 2007 @04:43PM (#88407)
I guess if you wanted to be snippy, you could say that Erlang isn't good at doing something it wasn't specifically designed for, which isn't a great feature for a language.

I actually like Erlang, and have used it professionally, but have a feeling that it's just not going to be a language that's used too much outside of its sweet spot.

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Re:"Who cares if Erlang starts slowly? It was designed to s... by pius on Tuesday December 11, 2007 @07:46PM (#88469)
you could say that Erlang isn't good at doing something it wasn't specifically designed for, which isn't a great feature for a language

To be fair, slowness of startup time would be a criticism of the stock Erlang runtime, rather than of the language itself. As projects like Squeak, Rubinius, and the official Java VM have shown, this sort of speed issue can improve independently of the language semantics.

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Re:"Who cares if Erlang starts slowly? It was designed to s... by davidw on Wednesday December 12, 2007 @04:34AM (#88672)
In the real world though, the current Erlang runtime is all we've got, so it's fair to talk about Erlang's startup time being slow.

The runtime has a lot of really good features, too - it's solid, pretty fast, and is very well tested.

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Re:"Who cares if Erlang starts slowly? It was designed to s... by dima on Tuesday December 11, 2007 @06:34PM (#88451)
Erlang was designed for building scalable, highly available distributed systems. If it's not good at building other things, e.g. first person shooters, that's not a meaningful disadvantage.
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Re:"Who cares if Erlang starts slowly? It was designed to s... by downer on Wednesday December 12, 2007 @02:00AM (#88629)
"Dear Erlang I: X I like you. Really, I do. But until you can read lines of text out of a file and do basic pattern-matching against them acceptably fast (which most people would say is faster than Ruby), you're stuck in a niche; you're a thought experiment and a consciousness-raiser and an engineering showpiece, but you're not a general-purpose tool. Sorry."

http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/200x/2007/09/22/Erlang

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Re:"Who cares if Erlang starts slowly? It was designed to s... by dima on Wednesday December 12, 2007 @03:02PM (#88833)
Erlang ended up outperforming Ruby by many orders of magnitude in the same benchmark. Read the final article.
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Re:"Who cares if Erlang starts slowly? It was designed to s... by downer on Wednesday December 12, 2007 @05:11PM (#88880)
By "many", do you mean, "one"?
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