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Re:When security goes right by chris_wot on Thursday December 25, 2014 @10:09PM (#8797879)
The first comment was:

"I don't see why this was a security problem in the first place. No personally identifiable data was disclosed. What does it matter if you can view anonymous traffic graphs from other customers?"

I hate it when people say this sort of thing. That just indicates they can't see a potential exploit, not that it won't be one potential aspect of an attack. Honestly, attackers - regardless of their morality - will tend to look at things from a viewpoint others haven't imagined. It's best to give them as few avenues as possible.

Re:When security goes right by jodrellblank on Friday December 26, 2014 @02:20PM (#8799903)
Apart from risk to individual customers, it means a competitor ISP could keep a running track of how many customers they have and how fast they are growing/shrinking.

Also how many customers on which products - some graphs will top out at 4Mb and some at 25Mb, etc.

And it implies there wasn't a thorough security review on that server-which-has-access-to-customer-data, so any malicious attacker might turn more attention to it for a way into more access.

Cperciva says the access required a valid login, it's plausible that login could be customer number + password, which would make brute forcing easier with a list of current customer numbers.

Hmm

If they're big enough to have customers across Canada, usage patterns could reveal timezones. And whether the residence is unoccupied during work hours / what typical work hours are.

Longer term usage patterns could reveal if they tend to go out at nights, on weekends, over holiday seasons.

What else... maybe usage drops correlate with major sports events for some profiling?

Re:When security goes right by jodrellblank on Friday December 26, 2014 @02:20PM (#8799899)
Apart from risk to individual customers, it means a competitor ISP could keep a running track of how many customers they have and how fast they are growing/shrinking.

Also how many customers on which products - some graphs will top out at 4Mb and some at 25Mb, etc.

And it implies there wasn't a thorough security review on that server-which-has-access-to-customer-data, so any malicious attacker might turn more attention to it for a way into more access.

Cperciva says the access required a valid login, it's plausible that login could be customer number + password, which would make brute forcing easier with a list of current customer numbers.

Hmm

If they're big enough to have customers across Canada, usage patterns could reveal timezones. And whether the residence is unoccupied during work hours / what typical work hours are.

Longer term usage patterns could reveal if they tend to go out at nights, on weekends, over holiday seasons.

What else... maybe usage drops correlate with major sports events for some profiling? Maybe

Re:When security goes right by marvy on Friday December 26, 2014 @02:54AM (#8798391)
True, but the fact remains that this does not sound dangerous.
Re:When security goes right by Argorak on Friday December 26, 2014 @09:30AM (#8798897)
Case A: An attacker knows person A has account number 123. They also know that this person has a tablet, a phone and an Apple notebook that A always takes with them when leaving the home. A uses Twitter and a couple of other social networks that those devices sync with in regular intervals and syncs to iCloud (which can happen while the notebook is closed).

I'd be surprised if this constant chatter isn't visible on the graphs.

That means: The attacker can track rather well whether the person is at home or not. Or at least make informed guesses. They plan a robbery during a holiday. Or, much more malicious: some attack on the persons other web properties like their iCloud and Amazon account, as presented a while ago.[1]

Case B: Consider that the attacker doesn't have the account number. Another leak in their platform allows them to link personal information with account numbers. In itself, that info is also not very interesting and would also not be "dangerous".

Because the leak of the traffic graphs exists, they go on and plan the biggest heist in Toronto ever :).

A good exploit is often the combination of multiple seemingly innocuous flaws. [1] is also a good example of that.

[1]: http://www.emptyage.com/post/28679875595/yes-i-was-hacked-ha...

Re:When security goes right by frio on Friday December 26, 2014 @04:50AM (#8798553)
You could send large amounts of data to an IP in sporadic bursts, find which graph correlates, get their account number and use that as a starting point for social engineering the helpdesk staff.

Elaborate, sure, but plausible. The more important part of the leak is all the account numbers anyway :).

Re:When security goes right by andreyf on Friday December 26, 2014 @03:06AM (#8798405)
I'm pretty sure that "have access to someone's account number once" => "have access to past and future traffic usage forever" is not good security practice regardless if there are or are not obvious vulnerabilities, and you really don't have to think very hard to construct a scenario where it can be abused.
Re:When security goes right by yourad_io on Friday December 26, 2014 @04:06AM (#8798497)
Security isn't about mitigating danger.

You're leaking information that you aren't supposed to.

There is no benefit or legitimate use case for this leak; it is a leak.

You gotta plug it.

Re:When security goes right by thefreeman on Friday December 26, 2014 @09:28AM (#8798891)
A good one mentioned in the OP comments is deducing when people are on vacation due to their traffic usage (or rather lack there of). Also, we don't know what other information may have been listed there. What if they decided to add your name and IP address to the graph?
Re:When security goes right by noselasd on Friday December 26, 2014 @11:21PM (#8801668)
That's with an assumption that the data was anonymous - an assumption we don't know was true. Was there any account/customer number, IP addresses, naming scheme or similar in the graphs or file names ?
Re:When security goes right by Kiro on Friday December 26, 2014 @11:11PM (#8801656)
Not one serious reply to your statement. Makes me think you're right.
Re:When security goes right by marvy on Wednesday December 31, 2014 @04:03AM (#8818664)
On the contrary, I consider these good answers.
Re:When security goes right by chrismcb on Friday December 26, 2014 @04:47AM (#8798548)
Didn't the file names contain the account #?