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Re:Multidimensional analysis of plot arcs in thousands of TV... by blowski on Thursday December 18, 2014 @06:35AM (#8766832)
Can someone explain how the author classified the topics? As I understood the article (and to be honest, I didn't understand it very well) he:

1. Takes a corpus of 'words often used in topic X'

2. Compares that corpus to the script, divided into 12 sections

3. Gives a value to how much the corpus corresponds to the script

A couple of things which interested me:

* Finding original films - would it be possible to come up with a list of films which have been manually classified as 'romantic' but which don't follow the standard 'romance' plot arc?

* Unusual direction or editing - Are there films for which the dialogue can't be used to classify what's going on? Perhaps analysing the soundtrack (loudness, bpm, minor vs major keys) and the video (brightness, colouring, movement) and comparing it to the dialogue would show something interesting.

* Compare the 'deviation from the norm' to reviews, awards, box office takings, and press coverage.

Unfortunately, I have absolutely no idea how to do something like that. Just wondering if it's been done before.

Re:Multidimensional analysis of plot arcs in thousands of TV... by bvm on Thursday December 18, 2014 @07:27AM (#8766944)
Answering your first question:

Latent Dirichlet Allocation (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latent_Dirichlet_allocation )

Re:Multidimensional analysis of plot arcs in thousands of TV... by iliis on Thursday December 18, 2014 @07:29AM (#8766949)
He links to a good explanation about topic modeling and LDA: http://tedunderwood.com/2012/04/07/topic-modeling-made-just-...
Re:Multidimensional analysis of plot arcs in thousands of TV... by blowski on Thursday December 18, 2014 @08:10AM (#8767064)
Thank you both.
Re:Multidimensional analysis of plot arcs in thousands of TV... by mrec on Thursday December 18, 2014 @11:06AM (#8767895)
Answering your second question: "Quest for Fire".
Re:Multidimensional analysis of plot arcs in thousands of TV... by pmoriarty on Thursday December 18, 2014 @01:12PM (#8768727)
Koyaanisqatsi
Re:Multidimensional analysis of plot arcs in thousands of TV... by gayprogrammer on Thursday December 18, 2014 @05:40AM (#8766750)
What is "unknown" that is included in the graphs? It is not explained. Title only mentions tv and movie scripts.
Re:Multidimensional analysis of plot arcs in thousands of TV... by sumitviii on Thursday December 18, 2014 @04:33AM (#8766620)
This analysis shows the already known 3 act structure of most plays. Is it a cross cultural phenomenon?
Re:Multidimensional analysis of plot arcs in thousands of TV... by fit2rule on Thursday December 18, 2014 @05:20AM (#8766722)
Re:Multidimensional analysis of plot arcs in thousands of TV... by pmoriarty on Thursday December 18, 2014 @01:13PM (#8768736)
Re:Multidimensional analysis of plot arcs in thousands of TV... by Fiahil on Thursday December 18, 2014 @08:33AM (#8767117)
This is very good. I wonder if this could be used to describe someone's personal taste in movies.
Re:Multidimensional analysis of plot arcs in thousands of TV... by jevgeni on Thursday December 18, 2014 @05:16AM (#8766715)
"twelfths"? Why isn't the word count measured in French metric quarts of ink, then? I'm disappointed.

P.S. Cool article though.

Re:Multidimensional analysis of plot arcs in thousands of TV... by blowski on Thursday December 18, 2014 @07:31AM (#8766953)
Any unit of measurement would have been arbitrary, and twelfths at least lets you refer to the first third, quarter or half. No idea whether that was the rationale, but I don't think any other division would have seriously affected the point the article is making.
Re:Multidimensional analysis of plot arcs in thousands of TV... by jevgeni on Thursday December 18, 2014 @09:34AM (#8767325)
Well, if the point of the study would change with the choice of the units, then the study isn't that good, is it? :)

I'm not arguing the point. I'm arguing, that using twelfths has not utility over using per cent, for example, but is counter-intuitive.

Re:Multidimensional analysis of plot arcs in thousands of TV... by weeksie on Thursday December 18, 2014 @09:10AM (#8767236)
Three act structure with each act divided into quarters.

Though, to be honest, three acts is kinda misleading since most second acts have a big turning point in the middle. So while yeah, there's a beginning, middle, and end, that middle is really two acts.

Re:Multidimensional analysis of plot arcs in thousands of TV... by jevgeni on Thursday December 18, 2014 @09:41AM (#8767356)
Good point. Splitting it up into quarters would make more sense.
Re:Multidimensional analysis of plot arcs in thousands of TV... by dspillett on Thursday December 18, 2014 @11:42AM (#8768119)
12 parts be quarters split into three as easily as thirds split into four.

Though in any case it would be nice for the article to state why that division was used (even if the reason is completely arbitrary - at least then we'd know to stop guessing!).