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Re:Yahoo Starts Prompting Chrome Users to “Upgrade” to Firefox by danw3 on Friday December 12, 2014 @04:29PM (#8742804)
I've just started using duckduckgo.com. Don't have any complaints so far.
Re:Yahoo Starts Prompting Chrome Users to “Upgrade” to Firefox by toxican on Friday December 12, 2014 @06:07PM (#8743270)
I have but one, and it's that it consistently fails to find me what I need as well as Google does. I made a serious effort this week to use DuckDuckGo and made it my default search engine. I wasted so much time googling stuff I'd just DDG'd to find what I actually wanted. I love and support DDG fully, but Google still does search better, imo.

Apparently !g is a thing though? I may have to give that a try so I can have the benefits of DDG, but the results of google.

Re:Yahoo Starts Prompting Chrome Users to “Upgrade” to Firefox by iopq on Friday December 12, 2014 @06:39PM (#8743367)
Yeah, I usually search with DDG and then add !g to it when I don't find anything good in my first search results
Re:Yahoo Starts Prompting Chrome Users to “Upgrade” to Firefox by thomasfoster96 on Friday December 12, 2014 @08:23PM (#8743694)
Well, !g will just redirect you to Google Search.

And I've noticed lately that DuckDuckGo has gotten much better at short queries lately, at the expense of longer queries. Any query over about 4 words goes straight to Google.

Re:Yahoo Starts Prompting Chrome Users to “Upgrade” to Firefox by jgallag8 on Friday December 12, 2014 @05:00PM (#8742978)
I use duckduckgo mainly, because I like what they are doing. From time to time I will get search results that aren't very relevant. In these cases, I just prepend '!google' to my search.
Re:Yahoo Starts Prompting Chrome Users to “Upgrade” to Firefox by glaslong on Friday December 12, 2014 @05:17PM (#8743052)
Now that I've gotten used to them, I really like the !bang operators. They're incredibly convenient.

A few of the ones I abuse constantly:

!g - google

!bi - bing image

!yt - youtube

!so - stackoverflow

!w - wikipedia

!py - python docs

The exhaustive list is here: https://duckduckgo.com/bang.html

Re:Yahoo Starts Prompting Chrome Users to “Upgrade” to Firefox by pbhjpbhj on Friday December 12, 2014 @06:21PM (#8743309)
I tried DDG for a while (a month, but probably a year ago now) but found I was always doing "!g <search terms>". So I just went back to using the address bar for searching and just the standard FF shortcuts (called "search engine keywords" IIRC) + a few extras I've added over the years.

On Firefox I have

g - google

ddg - duckduckgo

yt - youtube

w - wikipedia

etc.

easy to type without the bang at the front (Google and Wikipedia are defaults, not sure what the other ones are). I gather on DDG you can use them at the end so you need the ! as a delimiter.

Re:Yahoo Starts Prompting Chrome Users to “Upgrade” to Firefox by Ar-Curunir on Friday December 12, 2014 @06:48PM (#8743392)
you can use startpage if you want Google's results with none of the privacy leakage.
Re:Yahoo Starts Prompting Chrome Users to “Upgrade” to Firefox by icebraining on Friday December 12, 2014 @08:33PM (#8743728)
I wonder how they got that deal.
Re:Yahoo Starts Prompting Chrome Users to “Upgrade” to Firefox by Ar-Curunir on Saturday December 13, 2014 @01:00AM (#8744352)
They pass your queries through a proxy, so you have to trust startpage, I guess.
Re:Yahoo Starts Prompting Chrome Users to “Upgrade” to Firefox by icebraining on Saturday December 13, 2014 @01:45AM (#8744450)
No, I mean, I wonder how Startpage got a deal from Google to proxy their results. What's in it for Google?
Re:Yahoo Starts Prompting Chrome Users to “Upgrade” to Firefox by jimmaswell on Saturday December 13, 2014 @12:00AM (#8744222)
A nice thing about these is that they work on Firefox Mobile if you sync it.
Re:Yahoo Starts Prompting Chrome Users to “Upgrade” to Firefox by mattmanser on Friday December 12, 2014 @06:12PM (#8743283)
Why are bangs good? Why not just go to the site?

Also Stackoverflow's search and many other site searches are totally rubbish. Not a bit, but totally rubbish. Here's an example:

"!so c# read file" => this delivers useless results, the top result being "Reading Excel files from C#"

Compare that to "stackoverflow c# read file" on google, which delivers what you actually want, with the question "Reading From a Text File in C#".

Re:Yahoo Starts Prompting Chrome Users to “Upgrade” to Firefox by vacri on Friday December 12, 2014 @07:05PM (#8743454)
You don't have to load the site (trivial, but not negligible), throwing a bang in front of an already written search is simpler than rewriting the search, and google doesn't build a profile around you as another entity is doing the search.
Re:Yahoo Starts Prompting Chrome Users to “Upgrade” to Firefox by icebraining on Friday December 12, 2014 @08:34PM (#8743734)
another entity is doing the search.

What? It redirects your browser to Google, it's you doing the search, not any other entity. They don't proxy or anything.

Re:Yahoo Starts Prompting Chrome Users to “Upgrade” to Firefox by ripdog on Saturday December 13, 2014 @12:15AM (#8744258)
He means that, for example, "!hn rust" would search hacker news directly for rust, whereas "hacker news rust" on google would do a similar job but via google, informing google of your search.
Re:Yahoo Starts Prompting Chrome Users to “Upgrade” to Firefox by vacri on Saturday December 13, 2014 @05:02AM (#8744770)
Sorry, ripdog and icebraining - I got it wrong. I hadn't played with ddg for a while and my memory was in error - I recalled !g returning google results in the ddg interface. My mistake.

I couldn't correct it because of HN's stupid 5-comment policy that applies to comments made in all threads combined, and couldn't edit the original comment with a correction as it had been more than an hour. :/

Re:Yahoo Starts Prompting Chrome Users to “Upgrade” to Firefox by wutbrodo on Saturday December 13, 2014 @01:27AM (#8744412)
That's definitely not what his comment says. He's quite clearly talking about !g (not other bangs) and saying (incorrectly) that another entity (DDG) is doing the Google search so Google can't build a profile around you.
Re:Yahoo Starts Prompting Chrome Users to “Upgrade” to Firefox by glaslong on Monday December 15, 2014 @11:22AM (#8752716)
> Why not just go to the site?

Setting DuckDuckGo as my default and using !s means I can search any of those sites without having to go to them first.

It takes a step out of the process.

Re:Yahoo Starts Prompting Chrome Users to “Upgrade” to Firefox by girvo on Friday December 12, 2014 @08:05PM (#8743651)
And if you search a programming term in DDG, it'll show you relevant results from SO in-line on the results page, which is pretty lovely.
Re:Yahoo Starts Prompting Chrome Users to “Upgrade” to Firefox by jgallag8 on Friday December 12, 2014 @05:24PM (#8743087)
Didn't know you could just use '!g'. Very cool!
Re:Yahoo Starts Prompting Chrome Users to “Upgrade” to Firefox by arca_vorago on Friday December 12, 2014 @05:52PM (#8743193)
!images goes straight to google images.
Re:Yahoo Starts Prompting Chrome Users to “Upgrade” to Firefox by joosters on Friday December 12, 2014 @05:16PM (#8743051)
You can also use !sp to get Google results without Google tracking.
Re:Yahoo Starts Prompting Chrome Users to “Upgrade” to Firefox by dmdeller on Friday December 12, 2014 @05:40PM (#8743148)
You can now also use !s which is the same as !sp.

Note that it works as either a prefix or a suffix - it might be easier to put the insertion point at the end of the text box.

If you're using Safari, you can use my Safari extension to do this with a toolbar button or keyboard shortcut: http://horizon-nigh.org/re-search/

Re:Yahoo Starts Prompting Chrome Users to “Upgrade” to Firefox by billconan on Friday December 12, 2014 @04:45PM (#8742900)
I tried to use duckduckgo too. but I gave up because google is a very integrated experience, it can search map and has gmail, google news. duckduckgo needs these additional services to really compete with google. openstreetmap isn't as powerful as google map.
Re:Yahoo Starts Prompting Chrome Users to “Upgrade” to Firefox by thieving_magpie on Friday December 12, 2014 @04:52PM (#8742936)
That would defeat the purpose of their existence.
Re:Yahoo Starts Prompting Chrome Users to “Upgrade” to Firefox by bobajeff on Friday December 12, 2014 @05:58PM (#8743224)
DuckDuckGo is cute but doesn't seem to offer anything in the way of competition. It seems very limited in the results it gets and doesn't come close to offering the features that the big guys offer. There really is nothing significantly better about it that I can think of.