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Re:Java Doesn’t Suck by jksmith on Wednesday December 03, 2014 @02:21PM (#8695789)
>The fact I need an IDE to make it workable (just) highlights this point. J2EE was terrible too, because it showed where things can go, if you let the Java astronaut architects lead.

IMO you could say the same thing about C# and VS as well. Using tools that require as much work from the developer as the developer requires from the tools has gotten way out of hand. Delphi turned this sorry state of affairs into an art form.

Re:Java Doesn’t Suck by eropple on Wednesday December 03, 2014 @02:48PM (#8695931)
> IMO you could say the same thing about C# and VS as well.

Or, for that matter, C++. You can write C++ in Vim, but I sure wouldn't. Especially with clang-driven features in Xcode being so helpful.

Re:Java Doesn’t Suck by iterati on Wednesday December 03, 2014 @03:35PM (#8696183)
Re:Java Doesn’t Suck by eropple on Monday December 08, 2014 @12:25PM (#8717612)
I'm well aware. The folks who write Xcode have spent a significantly greater amount of time making their code completion put exactly what I want at my fingertips at exactly the right time.

The difference is significant.