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Re:Wire – Modern Communications Network by graeme on Wednesday December 03, 2014 @07:16AM (#8693286)
>You forgot Hangouts, which works on Android, iOS, and the desktop. It supports text, voice, and video, just like Wire. Its only negative from my personal viewpoint is no Windows Phone support, but that OS is the punchline of many jokes these days.

Have you ever tried to start a Hangout with a non-technical user? It's a nightmare.

I do remote tutoring. Skype is easy. Everyone has it, you add the username, and call.

Here's what happens when I try to do a hangout:

1. Log in to gmail. Student often takes a while to find gmail on computer and login, as they've been doing everything by phone. 2. Find the chat. Student often takes 2-3 minutes to look for chat. 3. Invite to chat. Your @domain address? No, my personal gmail. 4. Show in chat list. 5. "Send me a message". This takes them another 2-3 minutes to figure out. 6. Start a call. Another delay. 7. Often some kind of technical trouble where the call doesn't start, mic doesn't work, they must by mistake.

This is exacerbated because I'm giving instructions by text. Starting a hangout with a new user on a computer often takes 5-15 minutes. Every step has potential for failure.

If there's a better way than what I'm doing, the fact that I don't know about it is itself is a UI failure on Google's part.

Re:Wire – Modern Communications Network by morganvachon on Wednesday December 03, 2014 @11:11AM (#8694454)
> Have you ever tried to start a Hangout with a non-technical user?

Yes, my technophobe sister in law. She got a new Android phone and was texting me via plain old SMS, which are metered on her account. I texted her back "Look for an icon that is a green circle with a double quote mark in it. Open it, follow the prompts, and send me a message". Within a minute I had a Hangout message from her, and she's been using it since.

Purely anecdotal, but then so was your example. I'll agree it's not so simple doing it on a computer, but they still make it fairly simple; do a Google search for "hangouts", the top link takes you to a page that has a button that says "Available for your computer".

Re:Wire – Modern Communications Network by graeme on Wednesday December 03, 2014 @05:44PM (#8696833)
I can't edit the original post. I meant to write, but didn't "ever tried to start a Hangout on a computer with a non-technical user"

I agree the phone is easier.

Re:Wire – Modern Communications Network by andor on Wednesday December 03, 2014 @08:50AM (#8693680)
If all your students have a Google account and an email address, it's rather easy:

1. Open https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_ to create a new Hangout

2. Copy the permanent link that is shown in the dialog, or enter mail addresses to invite.

3. Students open the link. A login is required to join the Hangout, this could be improved...

Re:Wire – Modern Communications Network by alimbada on Wednesday December 03, 2014 @10:00AM (#8694026)
Re:Wire – Modern Communications Network by graeme on Wednesday December 03, 2014 @09:01AM (#8693737)
Thanks! That's far simpler. Though it should be more obvious that option exists.
Re:Wire – Modern Communications Network by mirkules on Wednesday December 03, 2014 @08:27AM (#8693594)
Bingo. My 80-year-old grandmother who is terrified of computers and doesn't speak english recently started having video skype sessions with me. As far as I'm concerned, that's a design and ease-of-use litmus test.