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Re:CoreOS is building a container runtime, Rocket by 23david on Monday December 01, 2014 @06:55PM (#8684897)
Ops (particularly in Enterprise) doesn't want batteries included by default. Principle #3 and #5 are incompatible IMO. Do one thing and do it well...

Seems to me that post-Docker 1.2, the Docker team has taken Ops concerns much less seriously and is focused almost exclusively on iterating Dev-friendly features.

Hope things change.

Re:CoreOS is building a container runtime, Rocket by stephenr on Tuesday December 02, 2014 @02:50AM (#8686144)
This is all too common in my opinion.

It feels to me like a lot of startups, and even smaller tech companies focus completely on developers. I seriously think some people think "DevOps" literally means Developers doing what Operations/Infrastructure people/teams do (or should do).

Re:CoreOS is building a container runtime, Rocket by ownagefool on Tuesday December 02, 2014 @06:12AM (#8686573)
It literally does mean that a lot of the time. It also means sysadmins bashing our horrible code and of course, the two working together which was the original concept.

Any term coined to remove barriers will always be co-opted by middle management to mean something else so they can put them back up. Otherwise, they'd be out of jobs and they can't have that now, can they?

;)

Re:CoreOS is building a container runtime, Rocket by stephenr on Tuesday December 02, 2014 @07:11AM (#8686714)
Sounds nice to work somewhere that developers actually recognise (even if its only because they're forced to by access rights, structure or what have you) that Ops actually have a clue what they're talking about,