Actually, I appreciate that shykes and others take the time and try to explain their side of things and engage in a dialog. There's a lot of people confused right now about what's going on.

I think it's a little less scary than you think. The person who commented was a dev. Like a very devvy dev, who spends lots of time devving on Docker. He's free to express an opinion, but he prob should have mentioned who he was (I recognised his name because he dev a lot on docker). But he's not part of the PR machine. He's a dev. A dev with a kinda ill thought out opinion, but a dev.

> The Docker team does this a lot, and it's part of their PR machine. They creep their way into and eventually try to steer every conversation regarding containers, especially when it can potentially be damaging to their "brand".

Can you give three examples of this happening?

If you must know, the opposite just happened. Someone who happens to work at Docker just voiced their individual opinion. He was then reminded by "the PR machine" that it is better to take the high road and refrain from answering, and let the company make an official answer. This is pretty standard communication practices, and a good way to avoid feeding trolls like you. I know this, because I myself will get in trouble for replying to you :)

> avoid feeding trolls like you.

Interesting to see you resort to calling your users "trolls" simply because they feel it's not good for you, the head of Docker, to respond off-the-cuff and angry about a PR announcement from a competitor.

> that it is better to take the high road and refrain from answering, and let the company make an official answer

Your company already released an official announcement 2+ hours ago (with much of the same rhetoric as your post here). Seems you didn't even follow your own advice.

I'm just calling you a troll, and it's for implying that a cabal of Docker employees somehow manipulates and suppresses the public conversation about containers for the profit of their employers.

    > I'm just calling you a troll, and it's for implying that 
    > a cabal of Docker employees somehow manipulates and 
    > suppresses the public conversation about containers for 
    > the profit of their employers.

Really? This strikes you as a good idea?

You came here with the explicit intent of disseminating your viewpoint that CoreOS is making a terrible decision and why your company and it's ideals are better. Your company already made an official PR response, leave it at that. (and you call me a troll?)

For the first time in Docker's short history, it's future and mission are being directly challenged. This is your response? (it won't be the last time Docker is directly challenged).

Imagine if Microsoft went around rattling the cage every time Apple released some product -- it would make them look pretty petty pretty quickly. Just get out there and compete. Produce a superior product and the market will speak.

> Imagine if Microsoft went around rattling the cage every time Apple released some product

You mean like this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eywi0h_Y5_U FIVE HUNDRED DOLLARS FOR A PHONE?

In all seriousness, you made a few blaming statements early on in this thread which is the most likely reason got the reaction you did from Solomon. I'm not opposed to people making observations, but speaking for others really has no place here!

Specifically talking about the "PR machine" comment. Say what you mean!

Well, for the sake of the argument, it did make them look bad.

You're just digging a hole here. Better to take your own advice and take the high road.