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Re:From hacker to hospice in seven weeks by philjohn on Monday December 01, 2014 @06:47AM (#8680491)
Yep. My wife has yearly scans because of a tumour supressor gene mutation and last year they thought they spotted something on the ultrasound, so sent her for a CT.

CT showed that it was pretty bad, que months of stressing and worrying about what was going to happen.

Turns out it was a false positive, caused by an accessory spleen looking like a tumour. False positives do happen, and they can be pretty devastating - it took quite a while for her to get back to normal.

Re:From hacker to hospice in seven weeks by zo1 on Monday December 01, 2014 @07:12AM (#8680556)
Would you care to share with us how you were able to determine that she had such a gene? Was it some sort of byproduct of a normal scan/test? Or was it some sort of specificly requested test you went somewhere to get tested for? Or?
Re:From hacker to hospice in seven weeks by qt7 on Monday December 01, 2014 @07:25AM (#8680601)
I don't know about your country, but genetic screening / testing is something you need to ask for, not something that happens as a by-product of a CT scan.
Re:From hacker to hospice in seven weeks by qt7 on Monday December 01, 2014 @07:23AM (#8680594)
If you worry that much about a false positive, I'm sorry for you, but you have no idea how much worse things may get. Many people don't get to complain about a false positive!

Stressing and worrying are both several orders of magnitude better than suffering and dying.

Source: My case wasn't a false positive.

Re:From hacker to hospice in seven weeks by DanBC on Monday December 01, 2014 @08:11AM (#8680740)
In the context of full body scanning: false positives include spots on the lung.

So now you have someone who thinks they have might lung cancer, when in fact they probably have almost harmless scars from chicken pox.

But what do you do if you think you have lung cancer? Do you go and get biopsies? The stress from that result is significant and shouldn't be dismissed as something trivial.

Re:From hacker to hospice in seven weeks by onewaystreet on Monday December 01, 2014 @08:19AM (#8680766)
People aren't worrying over a false positive. They don't know it's a false positive. In that moment their worry is just as genuine as yours is.
Re:From hacker to hospice in seven weeks by qt7 on Monday December 01, 2014 @12:59PM (#8682542)
Of course you're right, but there's a misunderstanding there.

My point is people who went through the experience of having test results compatible with cancer and then discover it is just a false positive (which technically it's not even true, there's no cancer diagnosis before a biopsy, it just can't be excluded), well, these very people seem to speak out against screening, or adopting more extensive screening policies, because they had a "false positive", and "it's stressful".

I am pretty sure all the people whose lives were saved by screening find that pretty selfish.

Re:From hacker to hospice in seven weeks by lomnakkus on Monday December 01, 2014 @03:01PM (#8683365)
I think you're misunderstanding something. This has nothing to do with selfishness -- you're only really considering the upside.

The harm/good ratio of screening depends crucially of the false positive/negative ratio vs. the actual prevalence of the condition or disease being screened for. (Plus, obviously the psychological/medical "cost" of a false negative/positive.) I would recommend the talk at [1]. This particular issue is brought up about midway through the video, but I recommend watching the whole thing.

[1] http://www.ted.com/talks/peter_donnelly_shows_how_stats_fool...

Re:From hacker to hospice in seven weeks by mcguire on Monday December 01, 2014 @01:25PM (#8682709)
Haven't we been through this discussion recently, with regards to screening for breast cancer?

Harms of Screening Mammography: http://www.cancer.gov/cancertopics/pdq/screening/breast/heal...