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Re:Don't panic and keep forking Debian by GFK_of_xmaspast on Friday November 28, 2014 @09:24PM (#8672872)
Eric Raymond is not worth taking seriously except as a bad example.

That aside, poking around I found this: http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/InterfacePo... which looks like reasonably well-defined interfaces?

Also not really seeing the problem with a binary protocol, works fine for tcp/ip.

Re:Don't panic and keep forking Debian by chubot on Friday November 28, 2014 @09:32PM (#8672889)
If you don't think the content of that book is relevant to the systemd debate, then you haven't read it. I'd like to see you point to a better book about the Unix philosophy.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem

Re:Don't panic and keep forking Debian by GFK_of_xmaspast on Saturday November 29, 2014 @09:39AM (#8673805)
I've been using unices for over 20 years now (first was ultrix, then truos, sunos, solaris, hpux, aix, linux, netbsd, freebsd, osx) and I don't believe there is such a thing as a unix philosophy.
Re:Don't panic and keep forking Debian by chubot on Saturday November 29, 2014 @01:00PM (#8674431)
Give the Art of Unix Programming and honest read, and I'm sure you will come around.

If you have ONLY used Unices, then I could understand why the philosophy is invisible.

If, like me, you had used Windows exclusively for a decade, and then Unix for a decade, then the Unix philosophy would knock you up side the head. The systems could not be more different. (Despite the fact that they run mostly the same applications. http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/Biculturalism.html is the review that got me to read it).

Re:Don't panic and keep forking Debian by GFK_of_xmaspast on Saturday November 29, 2014 @06:02PM (#8675380)
Of course I haven't only used unices, how is that even possible in this world.
Re:Don't panic and keep forking Debian by digi_owl on Saturday November 29, 2014 @10:20AM (#8673927)
That is the interface between the systemd sub-daemons and third party code.

There is no such promise about the interfaces between said sub-daemons and systemd-init.