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Re:God's Lonely Programmer by netstag on Tuesday November 25, 2014 @11:40PM (#8661124)
Not to discredit your point, as I do believe it's still has some validity, but that study is 12 years old and I'd like to think there has been some progress since then... You know like maybe having a president with the name Barack Obama.
Re:God's Lonely Programmer by PhasmaFelis on Wednesday November 26, 2014 @12:51AM (#8661238)
You figure a black person being elected President makes racists stop being racist?

'Cause I know some racists, and I can tell you that the opposite is true.

Re:God's Lonely Programmer by netstag on Wednesday November 26, 2014 @01:19AM (#8661305)
I have no doubt there are children today that are not growing up to become racist because of him. And I have no doubt there is less racism occurring, amongst todays' adults, because of him.

Hence the word "progress" and the reason why relying on decade old social studies is not the best idea.

Re:God's Lonely Programmer by vidarh on Wednesday November 26, 2014 @01:07AM (#8661276)
To me, the best demonstration of continued racism, is that there's no way Obama - being half-black, half-white - would have been able to get away with self-identifying as white.
Re:God's Lonely Programmer by Dylan16807 on Wednesday November 26, 2014 @02:36AM (#8661432)
That's not really an aspect of racism. It's the way races are (poorly) defined. He qualifies as black unless we can kill the meme of races entirely, even in a world that had no prejudice.
Re:God's Lonely Programmer by vidarh on Wednesday November 26, 2014 @02:03PM (#8664019)
The way races are defined is racist to begin with - that is the point - and the way it is being used to label people is explicitly used to put people down. Obama is "black" and not "white" solely because for a lot of people it is very important to label him black to be able to dismiss him. If people were not racist, nobody would e.g. care if people referred to him as white. Try referring to him even as mixed race, or half-white, and see the racists quickly come crawling out of the woodwork to make sure it is made clear how black he is.
Re:God's Lonely Programmer by Dylan16807 on Wednesday November 26, 2014 @05:45PM (#8665011)
It's a description of someone's skin color and facial features for the most part. It's not fundamentally racist, that's just the main use.
Re:God's Lonely Programmer by GFK_of_xmaspast on Wednesday November 26, 2014 @09:11AM (#8662322)
Re:God's Lonely Programmer by Dylan16807 on Wednesday November 26, 2014 @12:17PM (#8663350)
Yeah yeah, that rule of thumb is in the racist area but you can discount it and he's still obviously 'black' as much as the term 'black' has any meaning.