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Re:How to reward skilled coders with something other than pe... by mateo411 on Saturday November 22, 2014 @02:44AM (#8645078)
The figure 779,000 makes sense if you could take a programmer today and have him travel back in time to 1999. While the programmer was back in 1999 he(or she) would have access to everything that is available in 2014. The programmer would have access to the frameworks, the infrastructure(AWS), and everything else that we have available.

The reason average programmers today don't make on average 779,000 dollars a year, is because like many things, programming hours and talent have been commoditized. There are many people that can learn how to perform these programming tasks. It's easier and more accessible than ever.

Re:How to reward skilled coders with something other than pe... by geebee on Saturday November 22, 2014 @11:37AM (#8645898)
An easily commoditized skill can still generate a tremendous amount of value. However, the worker is unlikely to capture most of that value. In fact, if a worker captures all of the value, there would be no benefit to the employer.

The point of the post is that we aren't in a labor bubble, because the amount of value created by a programmer is much higher than the programmer's salary. For instance, suppose that a contractor installing marble countertops on luxury houses out in the desert gets paid 100k a year. It turns out that the value of those countertops is below 100k a year. This could be used to suggest that the jobs themselves will disappear (or salaries must drop dramatically), as the value they generate isn't sufficient to justify that pay.

Now suppose installing those countertops generate 200k a year in value, but that it is relatively easy. That would suggest that salaries could drop even though there is a surplus of value in the existing salary structure. However, it wouldn't suggest that salaries need to drop because value generated isn't sufficient to justify the pay level.

I think that's the point here - that the amount of value generated is so great that programmer salaries could remain high. It doesn't necessarily mean then will, just that we aren't in a salary bubble where salaries are higher than value generated.

Re:How to reward skilled coders with something other than pe... by michaelochurch on Saturday November 22, 2014 @06:56PM (#8647141)
because like many things, programming hours and talent have been commoditized.

True. We should have fought it. We should still be fighting it. If commoditization is doomed to happen, then there's a structure (called a union) that enables it to happen on our terms rather than theirs.