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Re:Ian Jackson Resigns from Debian Technical Committee by mateuszf on Wednesday November 19, 2014 @10:07AM (#8630396)
It still is about choice. If you want you can fork Debian any time.
Re:Ian Jackson Resigns from Debian Technical Committee by lmm on Wednesday November 19, 2014 @10:19AM (#8630460)
If everyone has their own forks that's a lot of wasted effort compared to everyone having their own packages but using shared distribution infrastructure.
Re:Ian Jackson Resigns from Debian Technical Committee by mateuszf on Wednesday November 19, 2014 @10:30AM (#8630512)
And it's the exact reason why unification through systemd makes sense.
Re:Ian Jackson Resigns from Debian Technical Committee by lmm on Wednesday November 19, 2014 @10:53AM (#8630664)
Actually one of the biggest problems with systemd is its refusal to cooperate with other system components. Need a binary log format? Let's write our own! Need a database? Let's embed our own! Interoperate with ConsoleKit? Nah, we'll just reimplement a replacement.
Re:Ian Jackson Resigns from Debian Technical Committee by mercurial on Wednesday November 19, 2014 @11:21AM (#8630849)
I don't know about the rest, but AFAIK, ConsoleKit wasn't maintained anymore.
Re:Ian Jackson Resigns from Debian Technical Committee by the_why_of_y on Wednesday November 19, 2014 @03:59PM (#8632582)
Given that the second most prolific committer to the ConsoleKit git repository is a certain Lennart P. it is reasonable to assume that the systemd people did not decide to implement logind from scratch because of NIH syndrome.
Re:Ian Jackson Resigns from Debian Technical Committee by digi_owl on Wednesday November 19, 2014 @12:53PM (#8631474)
Would not the traditional option be for the systemd proponents to form, and then demonstrate that their alternative works? Then people could move over at their leisure?
Re:Ian Jackson Resigns from Debian Technical Committee by mateuszf on Wednesday November 19, 2014 @01:08PM (#8631564)
There were so many technical proponents of systemd among distributions that it's now used by most of distros.
Re:Ian Jackson Resigns from Debian Technical Committee by e7620 on Wednesday November 19, 2014 @10:49AM (#8630632)
This is not true, unless you happen to have too many dollars to spare. Also, Windows can also be forked, by distributing patches instead of binaries.