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Re:The USA Freedom Act: What's to Come and What You Need to ... by RoundCube on Monday November 17, 2014 @07:13PM (#8621698)
Re:The USA Freedom Act: What's to Come and What You Need to ... by jessaustin on Monday November 17, 2014 @07:34PM (#8621771)
Wow a bill that isn't the exact opposite of what its name would imply. Admittedly I was not encouraged when I saw the phrase "USA Freedom".
Re:The USA Freedom Act: What's to Come and What You Need to ... by kijin on Monday November 17, 2014 @07:56PM (#8621833)
Names of bills nowadays have little to do with their content. Maybe we should just get rid of names altogether and refer to them by SHA hashes of their content...

"Some moron amended bill f7eed03, now it's bill f5ba821. Do you know how much I had to tweak the language in order to generate a hash that looks like 'freedom'?"

Re:The USA Freedom Act: What's to Come and What You Need to ... by gizmo686 on Monday November 17, 2014 @08:07PM (#8621868)
Why not refer to the bill as H.R.3361.

For anyone interested, here is the bill in question: https://www.congress.gov/bill/113th-congress/house-bill/3361

Re:The USA Freedom Act: What's to Come and What You Need to ... by kijin on Monday November 17, 2014 @08:15PM (#8621891)
Hashes would make it a lot easier to detect sneaky last-minute changes.
Re:The USA Freedom Act: What's to Come and What You Need to ... by dllthomas on Monday November 17, 2014 @10:05PM (#8622167)
At the same time, though, you lose the thread if you miss any "X is the next version of Y" update. Probably HR-number-hash would be ideal.
Re:The USA Freedom Act: What's to Come and What You Need to ... by mgkimsal on Tuesday November 18, 2014 @08:25AM (#8623738)
or maybe just 'version numbers'.

HR3361.4 HR3361.5 HR3361.6

etc

Easier for everyone to understand, not just geeks...

Re:The USA Freedom Act: What's to Come and What You Need to ... by dllthomas on Tuesday November 18, 2014 @02:30PM (#8625791)
People get tempted to play shenanigans like reusing numbers.
Re:The USA Freedom Act: What's to Come and What You Need to ... by mgkimsal on Tuesday November 18, 2014 @03:47PM (#8626238)
datetime?

HR3361.20141106142502

almost as bad as hash, but immediately parseable and understood if a version was before or after something else.

Re:The USA Freedom Act: What's to Come and What You Need to ... by uptown on Tuesday November 18, 2014 @08:38AM (#8623790)
Take a look at what New York City Council Member Ben Kallos is doing. He posts his legislation to GitHub so tracking changes is easy.

https://github.com/BenKallos/legislation

It's a unique approach to governing that I wish more would follow.

Re:The USA Freedom Act: What's to Come and What You Need to ... by lazaroclapp on Monday November 17, 2014 @08:37PM (#8621949)
"Under the bill, Internet and telecommunications companies are allowed to report publicly an estimate of: (1) the number of FISA orders and NSLs received; (2) the number of such orders and NSLs complied with; and (3) the number of users or accounts on whom information was demanded under the orders and letters."

Is it just me, or the last one is a pretty big deal? Since before, "number of NSLs" could include a single letter asking for all the data on all users or really large sets of accounts. Of course, there is still always the typical loophole of "oh, it wasn't an NSL, it was data collected under a different program...", but otherwise this bill does seem to address a lot of the issues with NSA collection happening at completely secret rates, based on secret law interpreted by secret courts. Am I being too optimistic about it?