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Re:Rejected for a Job at the Container Store by briandear on Wednesday November 12, 2014 @04:46PM (#8598429)
Everyone should pay the exact same tax rate. The confiscatory, class-envy based taxation is unfair and unjust. If I make more, I pay more. I shouldn't have to pay a higher percentage. How is that fair? What right do you have to determine if someone 'needs' their money or not? This is America.

Besides, if that woman were truly destitute, she could have gotten Medicaid. We already fund programs for the truly poor.

Let's say you make $100k per year. Why don't you pay $80k to the government. I don't think you need that extra money right? After all, your take home pay would still be above minimum wage. Better yet, you really only need a studio apartment, you don't actually need a bedroom.

Just as I have no idea about your life, how can you presume to know anything about everyone else's?

If we taxed the 'rich' at 100%, it wouldn't even pay the federal budget for one year.

We don't need fewer people paying more taxes. We need more people paying tax.

Re:Rejected for a Job at the Container Store by dllthomas on Wednesday November 12, 2014 @05:07PM (#8598581)
"How is that fair?"

Flat in dollars is regressive in utility.

"If we taxed the 'rich' at 100%, it wouldn't even pay the federal budget for one year."

Not that I support the policy, but depending on how you define "rich" it might. Per Wolfram Alpha (http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=us+budget+%2F+us+total+...), the US budget is approximately 30% of total US income. That's going to need more than the incomes of the clichéd 1%, but not terribly much more. If you let us borrow the same amount we're currently borrowing (extracting current revenue by taxing the top at 100%: http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=us+tax+revenues+%2F+us+...) that shrinks down to about 10%. Ignoring, of course, the very important point that those people aren't going to keep earning the same way when they don't see any of it.

Re:Rejected for a Job at the Container Store by manicdee on Thursday November 13, 2014 @02:10AM (#8600316)
Your absurd idea of an 80% tax rate would never fly. People who won't miss another $200k a year in taxes are the ones already minimising their taxes to the point they are only paying a half million or so.

The wealth is concentrated into the hands of a few. Higher tax rates for higher incomes makes perfect sense when basing "far" on "ability to cope with the loss".

20% of a low- to middle-income salary is a far greater burden than a 40% tax on someone with an income exceeding $400k.

There is an old saying in my social circles: follow the money. If you want to make money, you arrange to take it from the people with the money. Luxury cars, luxury apartments, gastronomic restaurants, and so forth.

Why not tax these people more? They aren't actually going to miss the money, and ensuring that there are more healthy middle class folks with disposable incomes will actually help the rich get richer still.

Social welfare and a universal single-payer health care system is actually a grand firm of corporate welfare. Throw a living wage into the mix and you can reduce minimum wages to zero. How much better will the outlook be for entrepreneurs and startups in that environment? No longer will volunteer internships be exploitation, no longer will labour costs factor into viability of a business, and you will have many more consumers with spare change to serve.

Re:Rejected for a Job at the Container Store by jack-r-abbit on Thursday November 13, 2014 @03:14AM (#8600456)
Well... not everybody bases "fair" on "ability to cope with the loss" so higher tax rates for higher incomes does not make perfect sense. Wouldn't it be better to tax everyone at 20% and then let people volunteer to pay 30% if they want to help cover those that can't afford the 20%. This way everybody wins. Right now we generally have a large group of people that gets together and says, "We really need to help those poor people. And that guy over there is going to pay for it." It is super easy to vote for higher taxes for someone else. I'm curious just how many people would just volunteer to pay more than the 20%. How do those people feel now that the only person they can point to is themself.
Re:Rejected for a Job at the Container Store by pbreit on Thursday November 13, 2014 @12:21AM (#8600067)
Wondering if a flat percent make sense is sorta reasonable. But the rest of your screed is pretty idiotic.

And most civilizations have come to the conclusion that progressive taxation makes sense. The wealthy benefit much more than in a straight line proportion.

Re:Rejected for a Job at the Container Store by kjs3 on Wednesday November 12, 2014 @04:59PM (#8598529)
<i>Everyone should pay the exact same tax rate. The confiscatory, class-envy based taxation is unfair and unjust.</i>

Not that current taxation policy is anything but ridiculous, but flat tax isn't particularly "fair", for many values of fair. For example, the burden of paying, say, 20% of gross income is wildly different for someone making 20k/yr vs someone making 100k/yr.

Re:Rejected for a Job at the Container Store by jack-r-abbit on Wednesday November 12, 2014 @05:46PM (#8598776)
But at the same time, it is "fair", for other values of fair. (like "impartial", "unbiased", "unprejudiced" and "neutral") Also, "fair" is kind of location based... a lot depends on which side of the equation you sit.