Woz’s take on the Apple 1’s noisy -5 volt supply

Re:Woz’s take on the Apple 1’s noisy -5 volt supply by melling on Wednesday November 05, 2014 @01:24PM (#8563299)

Steve was someone I threw out as a person who had multiple acts. I threw out Elon as an example on this page too. We are not trying to solve who the best business man is? After all, what would any of that have to do with the Woz? If you want to compare a $2 billion business to one of the most valuable companies in the world, we could be here all day.

By the way, I based my claim that Jobs was CEO of Pixar based on the co-founder of Pixar, and other facts I found on the Internet. Can you provide some facts to show that I'm wrong?

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alvy_Ray_Smith

http://alvyray.com/Pixar/PixarMyth1.htm

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Re:Woz’s take on the Apple 1’s noisy -5 volt supply by Alupis on Wednesday November 05, 2014 @02:22PM (#8563684)

If we take it back to the original point - it was that the true innovators were the engineers hidden away at Apple; Woz was/is one of them. Before Job's passing, he made some very famous exclamations of things Apple would never do.

1) Never will have a small form factor tablet

2) Never will have a large form factor phone

3) Never will produce "cheap" plastic-component phones

4) Never will embrace NFC

Towards the end, as we can very clearly now see, Jobs stood in the way of his team and innovation. Every single one of the things he said Apple will never do, they have done. And as we can see, they have been very successful with each line item. In fact, they've sold more iPhones now than ever during his tenure.

Jobs could put together a management team -- but he couldn't produce a product. During his first tenure at Apple, the company produced some of the worst garbage the world has ever seen from a modern company. It wasn't until his second chance that his management team finally got the right engineers hired. Like I said earlier, Jony Ive wasn't even a Jobs hire - Ive almost left apple when Jobs returned!

His management team were the ones that put together the engineering team and production teams -- and ultimately turned Apple into what they are today. People like Woz deserve the credit Jobs takes and gets.

regarding your question about pixar, the information is readily available on their wiki: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pixar

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Re:Woz’s take on the Apple 1’s noisy -5 volt supply by astrodust on Wednesday November 05, 2014 @02:26PM (#8563714)

As we can clearly see you have no idea how Jobs worked. He was extremely passionate about his beliefs, but as many have said, again and again, he would be completely opposed to an idea one day and the next he'd be telling you about how that was the best thing ever. He knew when it was time to re-evaluate his opinions.

He said Apple would never make a phone. They did. He said "never" many times, and many times Apple went and did exactly that.

Learn your history.

Yes, pre-NeXT Steve Jobs wasn't as good at directing products, but he did create the Macintosh. Post-NeXT (and Pixar) he had a much better sense of how to build teams and create products, those years were not squandered.

Dismissing someone because of failures is ridiculous. Bill Gates shipped Windows 1.0, an abortion of a product, and Windows 2.0, which was nearly as useless. It was only with Windows 3.0 they finally got traction and that went on to become the dominant operating system in the world.

Oh, but it failed twice, so whatever.

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Re:Woz’s take on the Apple 1’s noisy -5 volt supply by melling on Wednesday November 05, 2014 @03:01PM (#8563938)

Thanks for finally giving me a link. Unfortunately, it confirms that I'm right and you're wrong. Steve Jobs is listed one of the founders. Please see the Founders box on the right-hand side.

In addition, read the paragraph containing this line:

"He also began then for the first time to take an active direct leadership role in the company, making himself its CEO. "

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