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Re:A clock that can detect tiny shifts in the flow of time i... by stouset on Monday November 03, 2014 @05:24PM (#8553953)
Spin can be changed, but then you disentangle the two particles. So still no transmission of information.
Re:A clock that can detect tiny shifts in the flow of time i... by MrJagil on Monday November 03, 2014 @05:54PM (#8554108)
Isn't disentanglement a form of transmission of information? I.e. if suddenly my particle disentangles, I can assume it's been manipulated? (which is a binary state of tangled/untangles (0,1))
Re:A clock that can detect tiny shifts in the flow of time i... by zzalpha on Monday November 03, 2014 @06:18PM (#8554214)
And how can you tell if the particles are no longer entangled without observing both? It's not like there's some outward, observable property of the particle that says "I am entangled". It's simply a statistical correlation between the states of the two particles.
Re:A clock that can detect tiny shifts in the flow of time i... by MrJagil on Monday November 03, 2014 @07:03PM (#8554400)
Interesting. Excuse my ignorance(which is certainly present), just trying to learn.

Can you expand on the last part about statistical correlation?

Re:A clock that can detect tiny shifts in the flow of time i... by zzalpha on Tuesday November 04, 2014 @01:56PM (#8558328)
So, the statistical correlation between states of particles is literally the fundamental thing that defines quantum entanglement.

Suppose you and I both get a coin and we flip them. You then turn over your hand and reveal heads. If the two coins are "entangled", there is now a greater than 50% probability that my coin will be tails, which would not be the case if the coins weren't entangled.

Quantum entanglement works essentially the same way. "Flipping the coin" is equivalent to observing some state of the particle, like spin. In both cases, entanglement is evidenced by the correlation between the states, nothing more.

Now, imagine we had entangled coins and we were in separate rooms. We flip our coins and you observe yours, noting a heads. In my room, I can't know what you did or didn't observe. So when I observe my coin and see tails, I don't realize it's a consequence of your observation. From each of our individual perspectives the coin flip looks perfectly random. This is why information transfer isn't possible through quantum entanglement.

Re:A clock that can detect tiny shifts in the flow of time i... by MrJagil on Tuesday November 04, 2014 @03:43PM (#8558931)
I now see the relation to the slit experiment.

Very interesting, thanks a lot to everyone who responded!

Re:A clock that can detect tiny shifts in the flow of time i... by ianburrell on Monday November 03, 2014 @07:39PM (#8554540)
The correlation is that you know from your reading what the other person will detect. For example, if you detect a spin up particle, they will detect spin down. But you don't know when they have, or if they have, done the detection.
Re:A clock that can detect tiny shifts in the flow of time i... by gtr32x on Monday November 03, 2014 @06:19PM (#8554219)
You would know when you have two particles entangled at the moment of entanglement. You could know you have a half of a pair of entangled particles when the other half is sent away. But you could never know when the pair has become disentangled.